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I got a savaging on a Feminist forum the other day. It was my own stupid fault. I'm too old to run with that particular crowd. Besides, I didn't study the subject at university and I don't use- or respect- the jargon.

I consider myself a feminist. If feminism means believing in the equality of the sexes, I'm enthusiastically for it. 

But I should have realised that the gnomic, slightly mischievous comments I go in for aren't going to wash on this particular site (with its ginormous rulebook)- and that you can't challenge someone (especially if if you're a white male) in that culture of victimhood without being accused of  "exercising privilege" and "silencing" them. 

A black American woman had accused a white European woman of racism. The white European woman had replied that the black American woman wasn't taking cultural differences into consideration and that her view was "US-centric". At least I think that's what had happened. The mods then intervened to rule that if a black person accuses a white person of racism that is gospel and no comeback is possible. The white person must take her whipping in patience and humility and afterwards kiss the rod.

I said I thought this was unfair- and that US-centrism is a real issue.  Are black American women really so fragile that they need protecting from all disagreement? Isn't it kind of insulting to assume they can't hold their own in debate?

I'll admit I didn't express myself as clearly or fully at the time. I spoke off the cuff. I should have been more careful- not that it would have made much difference if I had.

I thought I'd stir up a bit of controversy. I was wrong. The pack turned on me and tore me to shreds.

I am- among other things- a white, cracker racialist who likes to wave his dick around.

I'm talking about this here because after a while I realised there was no point in trying to explain myself over there. No-one  was interested in debate, only in parading their righteousness and calling me names. When you're in a hole it's foolish to go on digging.

I'll admit I felt a bit sorry for myself at first- but I'm over it now. I took a nice walk round a lake yesterday and had fish and chips in a garden centre and visited with my niece and nephew and that sort of cleared my head. 

Date: 2008-06-30 08:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] saare-snowqueen.livejournal.com
I wonder if there won't come a time when thinking women and men shouldn't reclaim that word - or at least as it applies to the visionS we have of how humans could get on in life.
Groups like that violate everything I believed in when I began my odyssey to become a functioning person in a real world - especially the right to dissent, to have my own ideas respected. They are not only repugnant in themselves, they are damaging to vulnerable young women who fall into their hostility traps.

Date: 2008-06-30 06:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] red-girl-42.livejournal.com
I actually posted on my journal yesterday about how I'd like to start a new community for discussing feminism, with more reasonable rules that encourage civil debate. Of course, I'm probably too lazy to actually do it, but there doesn't seem to be anyplace on LJ for truly egalitarian feminism.

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