One More Thing

[poliphilo]

Warning: Spoilers.

OK, one more thing about Cold Blood. If Rory has been wiped from the time stream so he never existed he wouldn't have been there to take a bullet for the Doctor and the Doctor would have been dead and Rory still alive. You can't take a character out of a story, retrospectively- as if you were excising an appendix- and have everything else remain the same. If Rory hadn't been around the Doctor wouldn't have had any reason to resist Amy when she tried to snog him and they wouldn't have gone on that "honeymoon trip" to Venice and- basically-  nothing we've seen in this season so far would have happened the way it did. Moffat plays with clever SF tropes, but doesn't think them through. There are no rules in his universe.

Oh, and another thing; how come Rory was obliterated by whatever it is that comes out of the crack, but the Doctor could stick his hand in it and not be hurt at all? 

RTD used to get his characters into situations where only the magic button would save them- which is another way of offending against the decencies of SF-  but I don't remember him dicking about with the logic of his imagined worlds the way Moffat does. 

Comments

[strange-complex.livejournal.com]

I don't think it's quite as simple as that. The Doctor does still remember Rory, and everything which he did, so that signals that at some level he did live, and did save save the Doctor. It is simply that for ordinary mortals who cannot see the workings of Time in the same way as the Doctor, the anomaly between Rory's once-existence and now-non-existence can only by resolved by the brain just forgetting the former.

Similarly, the Doctor said in Flesh and Stone that he is as an enormously complex time-event, meaning that if he were thrown into the Time Crack, that would pretty much keep it busy and seal it up forever. By comparison, even River Song, who has travelled a fair bit in time herself, would be barely a drop in the ocean. So it's not that odd to see that he can survive pushing his hand into it for a moment, even though Rory is completely absorbed by the tiniest touch from its light.

[poliphilo.livejournal.com]

I'm not entirely comfortable with the Doctor's superpowers. If they were applied across the board no problem would ever phase him and he'd never have to run away.

I'm hoping that the season finale will be brilliantly clever and gather up some of the loose ends and explain some of the anomalies. Thus far, though, I'm disappointed by what Moffat has done with the show. I'm not so disillusioned I'm going to stop watching, but my expectations are a lot lower than they were.

[ibid.livejournal.com]

I agree. I think it's been a bit much having this overarching loop over the whole story and it's making it muddled.

I also suspect we havn't seen the last of Rory.

[poliphilo.livejournal.com]

Rory bored me- and I'm happy to see him go. If he comes back to life I'll be cross.

[ibid.livejournal.com]

He's no more boring than Amy! or bloody Rose

[poliphilo.livejournal.com]

Amy leaves me cold, but I had a soft spot for Rose.

[ibid.livejournal.com]

I didn't mind her but when she became 'the ultimate companion' I got a bit sick.

But then I'm old fasioned, clearly in the old series the Doctor was in love with his companions but it was always unspoken, but i think that's because I prefer ambiguity to explicitness anyday.

[poliphilo.livejournal.com]

Making Rose the ultimate companion created problems for all the companions that came after. What Moffatt has done is return to the default setting. It's almost- but not quite- as if he's erased the RTD years.

[haikujaguar.livejournal.com]

I keep hoping Amy will vanish into the time crack also. -_-

[haikujaguar.livejournal.com]

Oh, that would be utterly tiresome. :P