Srinigar

[poliphilo]

I was thinking about the Jesus tomb in Srinigar and how I can't assess whether it's a fake or not because I don't know how Srinigar works.

People in Kashmir have oral traditions about how Jesus came to their country. OK. In the west if you test an oral tradition to destruction you find- as often as not- that it actually goes back about fifty years. Tops.

But maybe in Srinigar it's different.

The mystic east and all that.

If the tomb were in Rennes le Chateau or even Jerusalem I'd be able to get a handle on it.

But Srinigar is outside my experience. It's not in my 'hood.

I know what a conman sounds like- but only if he's wearing a business suit or a Roman collar. Put him in one of those Islamic robey things and I'm kerfuffled.

Comments

[jackiejj.livejournal.com]

This is fascinating. I shall Google a bit myself.

I trust everything Google finds for me, since it's on the Net.

But only if the grammar is correct. One misplaced apostrophe, and I get judgemental.

:)

[poliphilo.livejournal.com]

If it's on the Net it must be true.

Did you see what seraphimsigrist has written below? Apparently Jesus is also buried in Japan

[jackiejj.livejournal.com]

I'm going to start looking around in North America. Maybe a piece of Jesus is over here, too.

[poliphilo.livejournal.com]

It's getting to seem like all sorts of people made it to the States before Columbus- the knights templar, the Vikings, the Phoenicians; so why not Jesus?

[jackiejj.livejournal.com]

Why not?

Maybe I'm related to him! I'm a J1, which means my haplogroup traveled north from Africa and hung around in the middle East.

I'm probably from the House of David, which explains why I like church so much.

[poliphilo.livejournal.com]

Sing us a psalm, Jackie!

[jackiejj.livejournal.com]

Sing us a psalm, Jackie!

Let me find my harp.

When I think of psalms, I always remember the mean ones: "Smite them, O Lord!"

I can so relate to those!

I was once in a divorce support group, and one of the women told us her tale about her awful husband, and then said a spontaneous psalm:

"I know justice is Thine, O Lord,
But let me be there to watch."

[zoe-1418.livejournal.com]

hmmmm....
Jackie, I think it's "judgmental." But I trust YOU. ;-)

[jackiejj.livejournal.com]

I trusted Google's Spellchecker!

Oh, dear. "Judgmental" looks more correct.

Please don't tell anyone!

Judge not, lest...

[zoe-1418.livejournal.com]

Well, my 10th edition of Merriam Webster's Collegiate Dictionary shows both spellings if the word is "judgment" ("or judgement"), and doesn't comment on the -al form, giving only the one without the "e." I really think you're fine, and it's judgemental of me to quibble!! ;-)

Re: Judge not, lest...

[jackiejj.livejournal.com]

Whew!

"Judgment" is an awkward word for me...

[zoe-1418.livejournal.com]

Also, I googled "kerfuffled," not believing it was a real word. But I found this!

http://www.slangsite.com/slang/K.html

[poliphilo.livejournal.com]

That's a fun site.

Kerfuffle is long-established. I'm pretty sure I was using it back in the fifties.

aomori

[seraphimsigrist.livejournal.com]

there is also one in aomori at the
northern tip of japan discovered by
a japanese farmer 100 years ago or
so...of course it is fake, if nothing
else Jesus was not appolonius of tyana
was he? or I see no sign that he was...
but what kind of fake is a possible
question. the aomori one is a misunderstanding
by local farmers of an ancient christian
monument or tomb of some sort, I forget
the details.

Re: aomori

[poliphilo.livejournal.com]

I'll have to Google "Aomori".

Fascinating.....

[seraphimsigrist.livejournal.com]

there is an american military
base there where jesus sometimes
dances with mary magdalene at the
officers club and leonardo makes
eyes at the busboy...
uh actually it seems from a bio I
was reading leonardo may not have
been homosexual at all so perhaps
the vice of heterosexuality existed
in the renaissance.

[poliphilo.livejournal.com]

I don't see how we can know anything about Leonardo's sexuality for sure.

I believe he was tried for sodomy and acquited.

[seraphimsigrist.livejournal.com]

well his accusers was a local character
who regularly did that sort of thing as
I recall... but anyway it is immaterial
on one level just rapping a little as
we do in high class american music...
+S

[happydog.livejournal.com]

well, of course it's confusing about all these different tombs of Jesus...unless there was more than one Jesus.

I'm still working out the details of how this could occur, but once I come up with a semi-plausible story I'm going public with it.

[poliphilo.livejournal.com]

That's a story I really want to read.

Maybe, like Saddam, he deployed lots of lookalikes

[red-girl-42.livejournal.com]

In the west if you test an oral tradition to destruction you find- as often as not- that it actually goes back about fifty years. Tops.

I don't think written stories are a whole lot more reliable, really. Like oral traditions, if they can't be confirmed through multiple sources, you really have no idea of their veracity.

That of course includes the Bible. I still don't get why people are so quick to dismiss any claims that contradict the Bible, but they happily accept the unequivocal truth of a document that was written by multiple writers and translated multiple times over a massive timespan.

[poliphilo.livejournal.com]

I couldn't agree more.

The story of Jesus's Kashmir expedition may be implausible, but it's much less implausible than the Biblical yarn about his resurrection and ascension.

[currawong.livejournal.com]

The Apostle Thomas Didymus is reputed to have made it to India. He is also reputed by some exegetes to be Jesus's twin brother. Both names mean "twin" so his name means Twin the Twin. That's if you take any of that highly dubious, (and I include "the Mainstram"), stuff seriously. It was all so long ago, in a dreary backwater of the Roman Empire that was the contemporary equivalent of modern day Baghdad, and in the 400 years following the alleged events, everyone who had an agenda put their oar in. Best ignored where possible, I think.

[poliphilo.livejournal.com]

Yes, at this distance it's all unprovable- and we're just banging our heads against a wall.

But I find it hard to ignore. It's my conditioning, I guess...

[currawong.livejournal.com]

(sings): I'm gonna wash that man right outta my hair,
And send him on HIS way ......

(that damn ointment is hard to get out of it too).