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Apr. 13th, 2006 09:49 am
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Religion is corrosive stuff.

This is the time of year when the Jews bang on about the seven plagues of Egypt and Christians bang on about a God who was crucified.

Violence, smiting, dead babies, torture, betrayal, death, vengeance; our lot against your lot.

We got saved and you didn't.

Like the tipping over of a barrel full of toxic waste.

Acid reflux.

Date: 2006-04-13 05:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bodhibird.livejournal.com
I concur, brother. I concur. :\

*thinks of four liturgies to sing in the next four days, and sighs*

Date: 2006-04-13 06:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com
We had a college chaplain once who put a positive spin on it by saying that religion forces us to face up to the parts of ourselves we like least and is therefore cathartic and therapeutic. He had taken as his text that verse from the Psalms about breaking children's heads against the stones.

Date: 2006-04-13 06:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] solar-diablo.livejournal.com
Along a similar line, I recently read a work by a Christian apologist who responded to the question as to why God demanded a blood sacrifice as part of his plan for redeeming humanity. His answer was that God didn't; humanity did. Sad to say, it makes a certain amount of sense to me. Violence and barbarism existed long before the Abrahamic faiths arrived on the scene, and they'll exist long after they're gone. Humans are hardwired for violence; religion simply provides a handy outlet/justification.

Wow, I'm depressing before my morning caffeine.

Date: 2006-04-13 06:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com
It's my opinion, of course, that God too is a human invention.

Date: 2006-04-13 11:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] red-girl-42.livejournal.com
Humans are hardwired for violence, and God created us, supposedly in his image.

Date: 2006-04-13 06:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bodhibird.livejournal.com
That psalm is referenced twice in the rule of St. Benedict. He interprets it as meaning that we should destroy our impulses to sin while they are still only incipient, and not allow them to grow into actual sins--to dash them against "the rock that is Christ".

That doesn't change the fact that the psalmist who wrote those words meant them *literally*, and wanted to see little Babylonian kids smashed to death.

Date: 2006-04-13 06:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com
St Benedict was being evasive.

But I guess he was being evasive in the service of civilised and humane values.

Date: 2006-04-13 07:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bodhibird.livejournal.com
Yes, I remain rather fond of St. Benedict. He *was* a very humane and compassionate person; you can see that in the Rule.

Date: 2006-04-13 06:37 am (UTC)

Date: 2006-04-13 08:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sina-says.livejournal.com
i agree. thought this might give you a giggle, though.

Date: 2006-04-13 01:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com
That's terrific!

Date: 2006-04-13 11:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] red-girl-42.livejournal.com
Hey, if smiting and betrayal is what it takes to get honey ham, deviled eggs, jelly beans and chocolate bunnies, then BRING ON THE SMITING!

Date: 2006-04-13 01:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com
I'll take the devilled eggs, but I couldn't eat all that sweet stuff...

Date: 2006-04-13 02:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] red-girl-42.livejournal.com
Okay, I'll trade you some deviled eggs for a couple of the Cadbury Creme variety ;-)

Date: 2006-04-13 10:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] four-thorns.livejournal.com
you know, i was not feeling so bad about missing out on my family's easter whatnot back in boston, but then you had remind me about the ham!

oh well. my family doesn't make deviled eggs, so i guess i'm not missing that much...

Date: 2006-04-13 12:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seaslug-of-doom.livejournal.com
And a Happy Zombie Jesus Day to you this weekend as well.

:)

Date: 2006-04-13 01:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com
Maybe I'll celebrate by watching Dawn of the Dead.

Date: 2006-04-13 11:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dadi.livejournal.com
Really, the only good thing of all that is the lot of precious music that is being sung everywhere ...

Date: 2006-04-14 02:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com
The BBC is transmitting something they're calling The Manchester Passion- a straight version of the story set on the streets of Manchester, with the characters singing well known pop songs, with the words adapted.

I won't be watching it.

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