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Ailz- who has been educating herself on the skulduggery perpetrated by food companies and supermarkets- tells me the "fresh" orange juice I drink for breakfast contains as much sugar as coca-cola and is quite as worthless nutritionally. "Basically, just sugar water," she says.

And I thought I was doing myself so much good...

Date: 2017-02-10 02:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sorenr.livejournal.com
If you just look at carbohydrate, protein and fat content they're fairly similar, but fruit juices - even processed ones - undoubtedly have more vitamin contents than Coca Cola, so there's that to remember.

Personally I mainly drink apple juice, simply because I have such a ready supply of it. (And at least I know exactly what's in it, having made it myself.)

Date: 2017-02-10 03:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com
I could be drinking home made apple juice too- I suppose.

Date: 2017-02-10 04:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sorenr.livejournal.com
Most of my supply of apple juice is made at the family juice weekend - it's a lot easier to make 1200 litres of juice when you are a horde of people than to make 50 litres alone... There are so many processes involved that you really have to WANT it to do it alone. I'm not actually sure I recommend it - though the result is brilliant!

Picking, washing, grating, pressing, bottling, capping and pasteurising is just an awful lot if you want to make any significant quantity of juice. (Not to mention keeping everything clean and sterile throughout the processes as no preservatives are added...)

So my advice is to eat the apples as they are - or cook with them. I have bags and bags of raw, cut-up apples in my freezer, ready to be used in apple pies, apple trifles, and even as a sweet element in curries or for stuffing roast pheasants. (Also works for smoothies, of course.)

Can you tell I grew up with apple farming in my family? When I was a child and couldn't sleep I'd sometimes get a cup of hot apple juice in bed to comfort me... I still occasionally drink that when I have a cold or a 'flu and need comforting!

Date: 2017-02-10 04:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com
We bought a fruit press a couple of years back and I had a go at making apple juice- but it was such hard work...

We had a huge crop the first year we were here and stored them as they were in the garage and they lasted months. We ate a lot of apple pie that winter.

Date: 2017-02-10 07:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sorenr.livejournal.com
I bought a fruit press last year and used it - but it was as much out of a sense of nostalgia as anything. And it was a LOT easier making grape juice where I could just put in the rinsed clusters of grapes and it took little effort to turn the handle.

Date: 2017-02-10 06:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] craftyailz.livejournal.com
Fibre is what you need - eat the whole apple - the juice is just sweet.

It's why fruit juice seems so much sweeter than the fruit. Fructose needs fibre to keep it under control. Glucose is digested throughout the body, but fructose has to go to the liver. If the liever is busy with the rest of the meal it just dumps it with triglycerides - not good for your blood. If you eat the fibre it slows down the digestion of fructose and then the liver has time to deal with it.

Athletes can get away with fruit juice, after they've exercised, but it's a reason why there are so many people who are suffering from being thin on the outside and fat on the inside. Fructose turns into fatty liver if you're not careful

Date: 2017-02-10 08:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sorenr.livejournal.com
But surely if one has a glass of juice with breakfast, the fibres will be provided by the rest of the meal anyway - or at least they ought to be. I think you're right that we all need to pay a bit of attention to what we eat - some more than others, of course, but generally all of us. And at least here in Denmark the advice is that juice can only replace one of the recommended 6 portions of fruit and veg per day.

And in terms of preservation, preserving juice for a full year is simpler than preserving entire fruits. (Though I do like to freeze at least some of my apple bounty or using them as a base for marmalades.)

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