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No, Arthur, this really won't do. There's no such thing as unspeakable horror or unfathomable evil. Your dirty little mind is fully capable- as well you know- of visualising and naming the things you're hinting at. Yes, I know you're having to contend with Victorian censorship- but even so you're perpetrating a lie- that evil is somehow glamorous- and that's wrong- as wrong as any of the enormities you're imagining but not describing. As you will find out- because you're going to live through two world wars- evil is actually rather dim and dusty and dingy- "banal" as Hannah Arendt reported- and best symbolised not as a beautiful woman with unearthly eyes but as a little man in spectacles- in some sort of uniform- sitting at a desk...

Date: 2016-09-08 01:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] internet-sampo.livejournal.com
I agree with you about Machen. What bugs me about my own tastes is that I feel this way about Machen but love (no pun intended) H.P Lovecraft, even tho he could be accused of the same thing.

Date: 2016-09-08 04:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com
Taste is a funny thing. From all I'd read about him- from writers I respect- I thought I was going to love Machen...

Date: 2016-09-08 05:58 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sovay
but even so you're perpetrating a lie- that evil is somehow glamorous- and that's wrong- as wrong as any of the enormities you're imagining but not describing.

How do you feel about "The White People"?

Date: 2016-09-08 06:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com
Haven't read that one yet- but I will

Date: 2016-09-27 02:47 am (UTC)
sovay: (PJ Harvey: crow)
From: [personal profile] sovay
Haven't read that one yet- but I will

I look forward to hearing what you think. I remember liking it.

I don't remember feeling much about "The Great God Pan," but it still partly inspired a poem that I like: "The Marriage He Saw Beneath the Shade."

Date: 2016-09-08 06:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chochiyo-sama.livejournal.com
I think "evil" is born of pettiness, spite, and greed--all of which I view as small. Not insignificant,--just small-minded, close-fisted, and unkind.

Date: 2016-09-08 06:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com
I agree with that. There's nothing grand about evil.

Date: 2016-09-09 12:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ashlyme.livejournal.com
Yeah, totally agree with this. The real evil here's committed by Dr Raymond and his friends. "The White People" is much more successful at hinting things, but the frame narrative's frustrating.

Date: 2016-09-09 04:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com
I found Machen's interchangeable male protagonists rebarbative- and I don't think I was meant to. I'll give the White People a go- and maybe some of his later things.

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