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I've been enjoying Janina Ramirez's series on The Hundred Years War. I knew about Crecy and Agincourt but I'd never even heard of the Battle of Castillon- which lost us Gascony. We slaughtered the French with our long bows, they went away and thought about it for several decades, then came back with guns. The popular histories I absorbed as a kid left out that last bit. Brave Talbot was squashed by his horse, got swatted by a man with an axe and could only be identified from his dental records. Ramirez is appreciative of the Duke of Bedford- loyal, a great soldier and diplomat; also a devoted Francophile; hey, he burned Joan of Arc- poor kid- but- no hard feelings- that was business. There's a part of me that's sorry England and France didn't get united under a single crown (I hadn't realized before how close we came to that happening- what with Henry VI getting himself crowned Rex Christianissimus in Notre Dame de Paris)  but Ramirez assures me that getting chased back into our little island was what made us the bulldog breed we are and that's not something a patriotic English person can regret. We went into the War with a French-speaking nobility and came out the far side with all of us speaking and writing English, a wholly native style of architecture and a healthy disrespect for the divine right of kings.

Date: 2013-02-26 11:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] veronica-milvus.livejournal.com
I haven't seen any of them! Need to catch up. I liked Ramirez' series on illuminated manuscripts. She's cool. I just get the feeling she's a Goth in civvies.

Date: 2013-02-26 11:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com
Have you noticed how many women- all of them doctors or professors- have been turning up as the presenters on BBC history programmes? There's Ramirez, Worsley, Beard, Hughes. It's a development I'm very much in favour of.

Date: 2013-02-26 12:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cmcmck.livejournal.com
John Duke of Bedford seems to have been a religious crank who had a real fear of witches and enough misogyny to allow him to believe that all non aristrocratic women were such and he wasn't even sure about all of them!

Other half is a Hundred Years' War expert and he can't stand the man (mind you, his studies are all from the French- not Burgundian- perspective so he may just be biased! :o)
Edited Date: 2013-02-26 12:47 pm (UTC)

Date: 2013-02-26 02:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com
But he didn't try and snatch the crown from his wimpish nephew- even though he'd have made a much better king. I think that should be counted to him for righteousness.

Date: 2013-02-26 08:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] charliemc.livejournal.com
We slaughtered the French with our long bows, they went away and thought about it for several decades, then came back with guns. The popular histories I absorbed as a kid left out that last bit.

Ditto! That's some real food for thought!

There's a part of me that's sorry England and France didn't get united under a single crown...

Not me. I just don't think even to this day that England and France really understand one another...

(hugs)

Date: 2013-02-26 09:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com
I'm a Francophile. I love the idea of being a citizen of both countries.

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