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Another thing about us Brits: we do love a worthy opponent.

George Washington, for instance. England is studded with places claiming to be his ancestral home. Churchill went so far as to claim (not I think entirely in jest) that bluff, squirearchical Washington's victory over George III and his Hessian and Hanoverian troops was yet another victory of the British over the Germans. Played 4, won 4.

Then there's Napoleon. We're sorry he lost at Waterloo. We feel his pain. 19th c.British pictures of him looking pitiable on Elba, St Helena or the Billy Ruffian are as plentiful as those showing the death of Nelson. No-one bothered to paint Wellington in his hour of triumph. Or sing about it. I know a couple of mournful, admiring folk songs about Boney- none about his British conqueror. The sub-text here is that quite a lot of us wouldn't have been too put out if he'd come over here and liberated us from our native oppressors- of whom snooty, hawk-nosed Wellington was a fine example. 

Kipling wrote a poem congratulating the fuzzy-wuzzies ("who broke a British Square"), there was a lot of admiration (and support) for the Boers. We didn't warm to Kaiser Bill (who could?) but we adored The Red Baron. Hitler was similarly unlovable but we rooted around for a Hun to honour and lit on Rommel. James Mason got to play him on screen. No-one has ever bothered to make a movie about Monty.

Gandhi took India away from us and we adore him for it. He has a statue in a London Square, and the hero-worshiping biopic was directed by a Brit and starred a Brit. Why, he is almost one of our own- just like Washington.  Don't you know he was totally inspired by Ruskin and Morris and the Toynbee Hall crowd?

Date: 2012-05-13 06:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] steepholm.livejournal.com
Also, Arthur is an honorary Englishman, despite fighting - if he existed at all - to keep the English out of Britain. (I do think this may be more an English than a British trait, by the way.) Cf also Robert the Bruce, admired by the English almost as much as by the Scots.

Saladin is more admired than Richard I, and Joan of Arc more than Henry VI (and even Talbot is largely forgotten).

Date: 2012-05-13 06:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com
Oh- and then there's Bonnie Prince Charlie. Even Dr Johnson (with his pretended scorn for all things Scottish) couldn't help succumbing to the romance of Jacobitism (and Flora Macdonald).

You're right. I should have written "English" not "Brits".

Date: 2012-05-13 07:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ideealisme.livejournal.com
Did Saladin and Richard ever meet? I always got the feeling of a bromance with those guys. Fundamentally they quite liked each other.

Date: 2012-05-13 08:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] steepholm.livejournal.com
I don't know whether they met historically, but perhaps that doesn't matter?

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