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I caught up with Derren Brown's Messiah on 4oD. Actually he's not the Messiah, he's just a very naughty boy.  Derren turns up on the doorsteps of various people in the belief business (Christian, Spiritualist, New Age) and fools them into thinking he has paranormal powers. It's not very rigorous. In fact it's kind of muddled. But what would you expect of a mash-up of magic show (Derren's tricks are amazing) and documentary expose?  OK, believers are gullible, but showing you can take them in hardly proves them to be frauds- rather the reverse- and has little bearing (as Derren acknowledges) on the validity of their core beliefs.  A couple of proponents of alien abduction were persuaded he could diagnose a person's medical history by touch. And so? Alien abduction is a widespread phenomenon- troubling, baffling, well worth investigating- and I'm glad there are people out there who are doing something other than just laugh and point. Most of the marks seemed like sweet people- decent, open, wide-eyed, trusting; well, they know better now. 

Date: 2012-04-15 01:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com
Did they still think Prince Philip was a god after meeting him?

Derren thinks he's got to the bottom of the paranormal because he can replicate some of its effects. I'm quite fond of him as a performer, but I don't think he carries the intellectual weight to be the kind of beacon of rationalism he aspires to be.

Date: 2012-04-15 01:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ideealisme.livejournal.com
I am not sure what they thought about Prince Philip. They seemed to compartmentalise that belief from the other perceptions.

I have read about experiments buy a guy called Persinger which suggest that the ability to sense the numinous is an propensity in the brain - and not everybody has it.

Personally, I don't think I could embark on any creative enterprise if I were completely atheist and there were no higher point in it.

Date: 2012-04-15 03:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com
I think Persinger is right. It wouldn't surprise me to learn there was a gene for psychism.

I think there's a link between spirituality and creativity. I'm not sure what it is exactly, but- put it this way- I'd be very surprised if Professor Dawkins were ever to publish a book of poems.

Date: 2012-04-15 03:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ideealisme.livejournal.com
Dawkins sportingly underwent Persinger's experiment. Where others experienced deep spiritual experiences, Dawkins merely recorded a mild, unpleasant headache.

Date: 2012-04-15 04:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com
Serves him right :)

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