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One of the stimulating things about LJ is that you never know when the Messerschmidts are going to come diving at you out of the sun.

Mainly you're among friends, but it's a public arena and anything is possible.

I like it that it's public. Yeah, I do really.

Ouch
Ouch
Ouch.

Date: 2004-11-25 10:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aftertorless.livejournal.com
That she is in fact a "she" almost never plays into it.

Forgive me for just catching up with this thread, and perhaps that is why I have no idea if you're speaking of yourself or the boys you mention who adore The Bride. But how can the fact that she is a woman never play into this interpretation? That is ridiculous. The entire film(s) is about female strength, connections (however subtle) between women, and the fact that a man she loved tried to kill her while she was with his child. She is a woman. She is a mother. And she is strong.

But how can anyone claim that the fact that she is a woman would not "play into it" unless they were 12 years old and had no training nor experience in terms of gender and power in our society right now?

Date: 2004-11-25 11:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] archyena.livejournal.com
None of those facts need to play into people's overall perception. I'm reminded of other instances, such as Charlemagne and Baligant from the the Song of Roland, who are precisely the same except that Charlemagne gets help from Gabriel at the end of the battle. That fact never seems to play in either. So while the facts of what is going on may be undeniable, that does not mean they are actually recognized or truly assimilated. Let's not forget that the overwhelming majority of the audience probably remembers more about the fight choreography than the plot line.

Date: 2004-11-25 07:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aftertorless.livejournal.com
Let's not forget that the overwhelming majority of the audience probably remembers more about the fight choreography than the plot line.

You're probably right.

Unfortunately.

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