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Nov. 13th, 2004 08:47 am
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What's with this this father-son thing that Hollywood keeps shoving
at us?

Spielberg can't leave it alone. Catch Me If You Can was sharp and funny so long as Leo was sticking it to the Man, but then we found out that his delinquency was down to the lack of a father figure and all it needed to reform him was for Tom Hanks to offer him unquestioning love.

Yesterday I was watching Finding Nemo. Great film in its way, but Albert Brooks's fussy lttle everyman of a soccer-dad made me feel queasy. If Ellen DeGeneres hadn't happened along I might well have walked out.

It's like the nineteenth century cult of motherhood. It gives off a sickly smell. I think there's something rotten that's being covered up.

Actually, I know perfectly well what it is. A very high proportion of dads who walk out of a marriage lose contact with their kids within two or three years. And a high proportion of those who stay behind are bullies, brutes and abusers. Of course there are good dads, but there are an awful lot of absolute shites as well.

Do families need fathers?

We daren't say "no" because if we did it would hurt the feelings of men. And that would be tricky because it's men who run the world. So we tell ourselves these cute little stories to keep ourselves from thinking too much about the facts.

There was once a little fishy and his wife got eaten by a barracuda so he had to look after his baby son all by himself and he loved his little son so much that he got a weeny bit over-protective; and then one fine day...

Date: 2004-11-14 12:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jackiejj.livejournal.com
These relationships play out over decades and only death can really end them.

It seems there are two lives playing out--the surface life and the archetypal one below--

Many years after my divorce I dreamed about marrying a man who was made out of ice (subtle!)--we joined hands at the altar, and the ice man turned to the camera (me the dreamer, watching) and said "Watch this!" and stabbed me in my extended arm with an icicle.

I think where we have made rituals we have in a way marked as with standing stones the presences of archetypes--which are the outcroppings of great emotional energy.

It does seem to me that we on the surface of life are playing out a role, that the real drama is being played out by other aspects of our selves--where we are ice men or devils--down there in the roiling psychoid of the collective.

Maybe when we die we here on the surface just snuff out, and our only usefulness is to contribute to the collective at some quantum level.

You ever read Whitehead's The Concrete God? He thought, like other process theologians, that God was rolling along and picking up information from the collective energy of people, and that, finally (I guess at the Omega Point--) he would concretize--that our lives were contributing to God's evolution.

Maybe my marrying the ice man was a data point.

I hope God is Good. Maybe He's an archetype, too.

Date: 2004-11-14 01:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com
For some reason that image of a God who rolls around and picks up energy from people reminds me of the Stay-Puft man in Ghost Busters.

Also it's kinda vampiric.

OK, I've thought similar thoughts myself, but they rather devalue the individual. I think I'm more attracted to the Jungian idea that we're here to "individualise" ourselves- that the individual persona is valuable in itself- as a work of art- and the more idiosyncratic we are the better.

Actually I suppose the two ideas go together- two halves a single Jungian thesis.

Date: 2004-11-14 01:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jackiejj.livejournal.com
God who rolls around and picks up energy from people reminds me of the Stay-Puft man in Ghost Busters.



Okay, now I'm smiling. And off to church. Thanks!

The Stay-Puft man! With his frown. Wasn't he wonderful!

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