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Well, that's a relief!

I'm not a fan of Obama- I'm not a fan of any politician- but I think the right man won.

I believe this'll be my eleventh American president. I've just counted them on my fingers. My first was Truman. Have I left anyone out?

Truman, Eisenhower, Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush. Hang on, That makes Obama the twelfth. So I did miscount. I believe I skipped straight from Kennedy to Nixon. Sorry, LBJ!

There aren't any heroes in that list. By which, I mean anyone I regard as a hero. The one who comes closest is Ike, whom I respect for his speech on the military-industrial complex. And for his war record, obviously.

The only American president who makes my personal pantheon is Abe Lincoln.

The Times recently asked a panel of experts to rate the presidents in order of excellence. Lincoln came top, followed by Washington and FDR. The full list is here. Dubya ties with Nixon at the bottom, above Harrison (who died after catching a chill at his inauguration), Van Buren ( responsible for the genocide of native Americans), Pierce (who mismanaged everything and was disowned by his own party while in office) and Buchanan (worst of the worst, who failed to prevent the Civil War).

Ike comes in at number 6, by the way. He sent troops into Little Rock to enforce the desegregation of schools. He also desegregated the army. I hadn't realised just how radical and forceful a president he was.

Obama comes into office on a great wave of hope. Some of my friends have been disturbed by the messianic tone of his campaign. But "he's not the Messiah, he's just a....." Well, you know the rest.  Remember that he inherits the most god-awful mess: two misbegotten wars, an economic crisis at home and abroad, American prestige more battered and bruised than at any time I can remember.

Don't expect too much of him, folks.

Date: 2008-11-05 05:32 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] oakmouse
He's got a tough old mess on his hands, but I think the key lies in the fact that he knows that. If he can succeed in pulling our collective cookies out of the fire, I think it's the fact that he knows what he's getting into that will make the crucial difference.

Date: 2008-11-05 07:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com
It's a terrible job he's taken on. Some things may be beyond fixing- or at least beyond the power of any politician to fix. People may not thank him for some of the things he'll find he has to do.

Date: 2008-11-06 04:19 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] oakmouse
If he does what needs to be done, some people will hate him bitterly. I hope he has the guts to do it anyway. I think he might.

Date: 2008-11-06 09:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com
He's still very largely unknown and untested. He makes great speeches, but can he walk the walk? Well, we'll see.

Date: 2008-11-06 09:36 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] oakmouse
He's a Chicago politician; that's a town that breeds them tough and with an ability to land on their feet no matter what. If you can survive the scrum of Chicago politics you can survive anywhere. On that basis, I think he's less untested than many people realize.

Date: 2008-11-06 10:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com
Less untested- and maybe not as squeaky clean as he appears?
Edited Date: 2008-11-06 10:17 pm (UTC)

Date: 2008-11-07 01:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] michaleen.livejournal.com
Is any politician as squeaky clean as he or she appears?

I saw a graphic the other day that read, "Vote for Guy Fawkes, the only man to enter Parliament with honest intentions".

Date: 2008-11-07 02:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com
It's interesting how Fawkes has morphed from folk demon to folk hero in the course of 400 years.

Date: 2008-11-08 04:07 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] oakmouse
Exactly.

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