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On Sunday we drove to Scotland. It took us about four hours. They say this is an overcrowded island, but the only major town we came across between Greater Manchester and Edinburgh- and we didn't go through it, only saw it signposted off to the right - was Carlisle.  Otherwise that whole huge stretch of country- first the Lake District, then the Borders- is just hills and hills and hills. We booked into the Travel Lodge at Kinross That night we had been invited to have tea with an online friend of Ailz's in a nearby town. This is the first time either of us has sealed an online friendship with a real life meeting. I think it went OK. After tea she took us to the pub where she runs a late night karaoke session. Ailz and I both hate pubs, but she's better at hiding it. There were three pubs on the one street- the Rangers pub, the Celtic pub and this- which was the "non-sectarian" pub. After a few minutes Ailz turned to Carolyn and said "You've got to understand; he's a Southerner; this is a terrible culture shock for him." And it was. The noise was horrible, I could hear hardly anything that was said to me, and there was an elderly man dancing by himself with a bottle of WKD in his fist. We stayed about an hour and then Ailz's back started spasming from being sat on the hard settle- and we made our excuses and left. Peter, Carolyn's partner, insisted on walking us down the hill to our car because he was afraid someone might bottle us for being English.

It was a lovely clear night. Very little light pollution. For a while there was no-one on the road except us and the Great Bear.

Date: 2008-10-30 10:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nostoi.livejournal.com
I totally agree. I think Scottish people need to have independence because currently they have an extremely unhealthy outlook that is holding them back. I don't just mean dislike/hatred of England and the English but everything that stems from that. To blame the crap on another country is to not take responsibility for yourself, but in order to really WANT to take responsibility you have to be given the freedom to do it, and not always feel some kind of second class inhabitant of a nation that holds the interests of another country above yours.

Date: 2008-10-30 05:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com
If the Scots vote for independence, I'd be happy. But equally happy if they choose to maintain the Union. I just wish they could lose that chip from off their shoulders. Of course they're the junior partner- their population is only a fraction of England's- but this hasn't prevented them from punching above their weight, both within the union and on the world stage.

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