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Sep. 4th, 2008 09:45 am
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We're getting in quotes on replacement windows.

Tuesday a guy came round, measured up, said he'd put a quote in the post for us- and was gone in 20 minutes. That's what we want.

Yesterday a second guy came round and, in spite of us telling him we didn't have the money, that we were applying for a grant, that there was no way we'd sign on the spot, tried to hustle us into closing the deal. He was here for two hours. He was hawking a good product and, if he hadn't been so pushy, might well have got our business. As it is, no way!

When a salesman starts off his spiel by telling you he isn't a salesman you know you're in for the hard sell. I think these guys need to wise up. We've seen the hidden camera footage of salesmen in training , we've watched Glengarry Glenross, we know the secrets- and for every potential customer who falls for the patter there must be another who's repulsed by it.

Date: 2008-09-04 09:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nostoi.livejournal.com
It's always the same. When we had to have the house rewired we went with a bloke who did an electrical check first and it turned out we didn't need a full rewire, which is what the other two firms had quoted for.

It pays to shop around - good luck with it all. :)

Date: 2008-09-04 10:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com
We've got three quotes lined up.

The first two are in. Company #1- the one we liked- is offering to do the work for £2,000 less than Company #2.

Date: 2008-09-04 09:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jfs.livejournal.com
The tactic which gets my goat is when you're given a quote, tell them that 'it's too high' or 'someone else has quoted lower' and then they say "well, let me see what I can do".

The last time I had work done on the house I told all the people who came to quote "I'm only going to accept one price from you, so give me the actual lowest price you're willing to work for."

When one of them came back later with a "I'm sure I can lower that price" I told him I didn't want him to work for me because by inference, he'd lied to me previously.

Date: 2008-09-04 10:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com
The first quote is often a try-on. Ailz is rather good at haggling, but I find it demeaning.

I like your tactic.

Date: 2008-09-04 12:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elegysostenuto.livejournal.com
That is really different from the way we do it.

We measure our windows ourselves, then take the measurements in for a quote to all the different showrooms, and then sign on for the best quote and only then do they visit the house and do their install.

And other than greeting us and signing the actual papers, the sales guys don't really try to influence our decision.

It might just be the American Midwest that does it like this. We've had the same experiences with our auto purchase, and home, as well as carpeting and painting.

However, I have heard horror stories about salesmen in California from friends.

Date: 2008-09-04 01:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com
I like that way of doing things.

It puts the customer in charge.

I guess you could do it like that over here. I've certainly done it that way in the past when buying carpet.

These quotes was set up for us by some online middleman, after Ailz- unsuspectingly- filled in a questionnaire. Normally we would have been rather more proactive and done some research of our own before going ahead.

Date: 2008-09-04 02:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] karenkay.livejournal.com
I think sales is sort of like hostage negotiation: your goal is to keep the other side talking. As long as the other side is talking, then you have hope of a good resolution.

(Actually, that applies to any negotiation. But I was amused by the image of you and Ailz being held hostage for two hours.)

Date: 2008-09-04 04:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com
Hostage negotiation- I like that. He was a very personable young man, but he couldn't half talk!

Date: 2008-09-04 04:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] karenkay.livejournal.com
Yeah, I think that thinking of it as a hostage negotiation is useful--it makes you far less inclined to let them hold your time hostage.

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Date: 2008-09-04 08:16 pm (UTC)
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