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Jun. 4th, 2008 09:50 am
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If Yves St Laurent was a genius- which is what they're calling him in the obituaries- what word do we use to describe Leonardo da Vinci?

Mind you, no-one called Leonardo a genius in his lifetime. Our modern use of the word seems to date from the 19th century- and from the work of Sir Francis Galton- another genius.

I suppose our use of the word has always been a bit loose. There are "universal" geniuses like Goethe- who excelled in all sorts of different disciplines and (according to a website I've just consulted) may have had the highest IQ of all time- and specialised geniuses like Einstein- who was great in a single field. 

Exactly how brilliant do you have to be? I have no difficulty describing Mozart as a genius, but step down a few rungs and what about Tchaikovsky? What about Paul McCartney? 

I reckon there ought to be a cut-off point. Below a certain level you're not a genius, just very talented. 

Also there has to be achievement. Being extremely intelligent but doing nothing about it isn't good enough. And the achievement has to be important. Now that's another slippery word- but I reckon a significant breakthrough in philosophy, science or the arts puts you in the running, but being very good at chess doesn't. 

I would hesitate to describe any sportsman or woman as a genius. Same goes (coming full circle) for people who design frocks. 

Genius and saint are the highest titles we can give a human being. I think we should be as careful with the one as the Vatican is (or used to be before JPII got going) with the other. There are gifted people- and then there are people whose gift is so extraordinary as to seem almost supernatural: these are the geniuses- and there are very, very few of them.

Date: 2008-06-04 11:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com
Something I read suggested that Kant used the term. I immediately backed away because Kant and I don't mix.

Aren't you being a little hard on Goethe? Ailz had to study him as part of an OU course and thought he was pretty cool. I've read a poem or two. I like Erl Koenig so much I translated it.

Maybe Goethe wasn't as great as they thought at the time, but Shakespeare, Mozart, Beethoven? There are plenty of old-time genii who still push our buttons.

Date: 2008-06-04 11:33 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] glitzfrau.livejournal.com
Oh, I love Goethe! And Kant too, for that matter. But they're my job. I think it would be giant academic snobbery to insist that they're still motors of our general culture (though the Enlightenment is coming back into fashion with a bang.) Plenty of old-time genii do push our buttons (though Shakespeare wasn't called a genius until a hundred and fifty years after his death) - but plenty don't. Milton? Spenser? Pope? Napoleon, and the military genii of the nineteenth century? They'll come back, but at present they're a duty-roll of honour, not really names emblazoned in fire on our individual hearts thanks to an ecstatic encounter with their work. We might love them, but we're literati - we do this stuff for a living, and surely contact with a divine inspiration would have a bit more universal an appeal than the rarefied fanbase than (e.g.) Lawrence now enjoys.

Date: 2008-06-04 12:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com
I suppose one could argue (not that I'm sure I want to) that people like Goethe are fixed stars and if they've fallen out of favour it's because we- their descendants- are unworthy of them.

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