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Twelve million people died during the Russian Civil War.

Then along came Stalin and he killed and he killed and he killed.

Thirty million Soviet citizens died during World War II

But Russia is still there and not notably underpopulated and some people lived through the whole bloody shambles and are still walking around today.

And we Brits go on about how brave we are because the Germans once dropped a few bombs on London.

Date: 2005-09-18 09:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ex-kharin447.livejournal.com
Regrettably, I suspect the present they have is more the issue. This is something that has gathered pace considerably since the fall of communism.

Date: 2005-09-18 09:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com
I don't know what to say.

That Russia's experience of "freedom" should be more debilitating than its experience of totalitarian control is horrifying.

Date: 2005-09-18 12:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ex-kharin447.livejournal.com
More here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4125072.stm and here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3984951.stm

Date: 2005-09-18 02:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com
"They stress that a number of simple, if unpopular, measures, such as putting up the price of alcohol or forcing people to wear seatbelts, might make a lasting difference."

Extraordinary......

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