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Does Trump- with his assertions that his office's communications were hacked in the closing stages of the presidential campaign-  realise he actually won the election- and isn't still running against Obama? Is all the noise he's making just the way he is or a cunning strategy to confuse and bedazzle his enemies (which at this stage of the proceedings means just about everybody in the world apart from his inner circle).

Following the revelations from Tuam I find myself wondering (as I often have before) why the Catholic Church doesn't just crawl away into a corner and die of shame- but then I remind myself that power elites just don't do that- not ever, nohow.

Date: 2017-03-08 01:57 pm (UTC)
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The church has a long, long history of atrocities. One more or less on the counter doesn't make that much a difference anymore - in the eye of people looking at the church, when asking about being surprised about another one, as well as from the point of view of the church itself. At all, one must say: Has any atrocity that ever made it to the public make people tearing churches down and burn priests and all the people that belong to this lot that keeps doing these things? As long as they don't need to fear this, why caring about it too much (from their point of view? Just a recognition from practical circumstances.

Date: 2017-03-08 02:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com
The reaction to the scandals in Ireland hasn't been violent. People, especially the young, have just turned their backs on the Church. The ju-ju doesn't work any more and the power has been broken.

Date: 2017-03-08 02:51 pm (UTC)
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If people turn away in one place, just move to another...

Date: 2017-03-08 09:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ideealisme.livejournal.com
The problem is that there is a backlog of past crimes and outrages perpetuated by a tight nexus of dynasties interlocked with church interests. Rumour has it that Eamon de Valera's son was one of the principal agents in the selling of babies abroad for adoption (without their mother's position and often lying and pretending they were dead.) A file for Eamon Junior's arrest was never sent to the director of public prosecutions.

And there are so many more like this. There is a whole pile of culpability, secrecy and cover-ups.

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