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1. I have it on what seems to be the best authority that the Russians had nothing to do with hacking the US election but- what the hell- people will believe what they want to believe.

2. Funny how  "fake news" is always what the other side puts out.

3. The word "fascist" should be struck from the political lectionary. Fascism was a political movement of the inter-war years.  Calling  a modern politician a fascist is just another way of living in the past and avoiding engagement with what's really going on.

5. Boris Johnson said some truthful things about Saudi Arabia and was dumped on by his boss- which tells you all you need to know about the bred-in-the-bone wickedness of government.

Date: 2016-12-11 03:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com
And you, of all people, believe the CIA?

People seem to prefer Fascist to Nazi. I suppose its more euphonious.

Johnson is frightful but he was speaking the truth on this occasion.

Date: 2016-12-11 04:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cmcmck.livejournal.com
No- just observing that they seem to think something is going on (we don't often agree, I have to say).

I think we had home grown Fascists here but never any home grown Nazis so that may be it.

I totally agree with what he said, but I'm not a senior diplomat! :oS

Date: 2016-12-11 05:08 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] heleninwales.livejournal.com
I totally agreed with what Boris said, but I also agree with Theresa May that he shouldn't have said it. As our Foreign Secretary, he is supposed to say only what he's been told to say. He is simply a mouthpiece for government policy. If he wants to be able to give his personal opinion, he should have the decency to resign from his post.

Date: 2016-12-11 05:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com
I notice that Boris is now eating crow, schmoozing with the Saudis and doing the business they expect of him. Apparently he was misreported or taken out of context and it's all the fault of the media...

Date: 2016-12-12 08:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] steepholm.livejournal.com
I think the preference for Fascist over Nazi is that you don't fall foul of Godwin's Law, partly; and more generally that it doesn't necessarily imply anti-Semitism as a founding plank of its ideology, just a nation-based form of authoritarian demagoguery.

Date: 2016-12-12 08:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] steepholm.livejournal.com
I agree that words can lose their potency if overused, but I think the 1970s and '80s were the heyday of calling everyone and everything vaguely right of centre "fascist". Like an overprescribed antibiotic the word's potency gradually decreased; and now, when we have someone in the White House who really seems to fit the description, it has lost its power to stigmatise. Still, if I don't blame people for using it. If it salutes like a duck, etc. And presumably the idea is partly to shock people from a complacent "it couldn't happen here" state of mind.

Date: 2016-12-12 09:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com
The rise of Trump- and his European equivalents- has taken us by surprise and knocked us a bit silly. We're still struggling to find the language to describe what's going on.

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