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Jul. 13th, 2005 10:04 am
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It seems like we now know who the bombers were.

No names have been released yet, but it seems like we're talking about four young men from West Yorkshire (just across the hills from here.

Friends and neighbours are saying the usual things. How they were quiet, religious, sports-loving, normal.....

A Member of the House of Lords was saying last night that no normal person could understand such depravity.

Don't give me that. Young people (young men in particular) are ignorant, suggestible and "ardent for some desperate glory". Here in Europe in the 20th century whole generations of young men marched off to perform unspeakable horrors and give their lives for a succession of gimcrack, intellectually contemptible ideologies- imperialism, fascism, national socialism, communism. They were fooled.

But willingly fooled.

I was a student radical. I was part of a gang that over-ran a building on campus and occupied it for a fortnight. I didn't understand the politics and had only the faintest idea what our aims were supposed to be; I was simply riding high on the glamour and excitement of it all. I don't suppose I'd have blown myself up for the cause, but then no-one was asking me to. If I'd have fallen into other hands, had another type of ideology pumped into me, who knows?

I wasn't particularly alienated. I just wanted to give myself to something bigger and (as I fantasised ) nobler than myself. I was crying out to be cannon fodder.

And for males in late adolescence, early adulthood, that's normal....

Date: 2005-07-13 07:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jackiejj.livejournal.com
And that's why young males are always recruited.

There's a reprehensible ad on TV lately. It's a recruitment ad for the Army, aimed right at the most vulnerable segment of our population: poor Black males.

A son sits with his careworn mother. He says, tentatively, "Mom, now hear me out. I think I've found a way to go to college."

She gives him a long look. She's heard this before. "All right," she says wearily. "Let's hear it."

He shoves a brochure over to her.

"I can get a scholarship, and get trained, too," he says, and he's pleading with her.

She smiles tentatively. "Maybe so," she says.

--

The thing is, we're way down on recruitment here. Lately the effort has been to approach the home schooled high school kids.

And everybody will be going to Iraq, I suppose.

That young boy may get his scholarship, but first he must survive for three years. He didn't mention that part to his mother.

--

I heard about the bombers coming from North England and wondered if that might be near you.

So the suicide bombings have begun in Europe now. Next it will be the US, I guess.





Date: 2005-07-13 08:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] halfmoon-mollie.livejournal.com
The thing is, we're way down on recruitment here. Lately the effort has been to approach the home schooled high school kids.

And everybody will be going to Iraq, I suppose.

That young boy may get his scholarship, but first he must survive for three years. He didn't mention that part to his mother.


I've seen that. And I"ve seen the one where the kid is talking to his father when he gets back and the father indicates that his son being in the Army had made him more of a man, one his father respects.

My dad is active in Veteran Affairs, and some of the stories about the kids coming BACK from fighting, come back to find they've lost their job, once they set foot back on this soil they no longer are entitled to medical care, because a good share of the fighting force is the National Guard.

Recruitment IS down. Oh....bah....this makes me so angry I know I'll say something foolish...

Date: 2005-07-13 08:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com
Our recruiting ads are all about what action-packed fun it is in the army and how tough you have to be- marginally more honest, I suppose, but not much.

The bombers came from an area very like ours, with the same sort of ethnic mix.

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