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And while we're talking about monuments to children, Thame also has these-



Date: 2015-12-11 03:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sorenr.livejournal.com
That must have been hard on the family.

I remember talking with my great-grandmother about her loosing 3 of her 7 children as infants or toddlers; child mortality might have been more common in her youth, but she said it still hurt. Of course it did.

Date: 2015-12-11 04:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com
The difference is they knew it was a possibility- even quite likely- that they would lose children- and we regard child deaths as a terrible anomaly.

Date: 2015-12-11 05:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sorenr.livejournal.com
Still, I suspect even knowing it can happen doesn't do much. After all, we know the risk of getting killed in traffic these days and still consider such deaths tragic and unusual.

It's nice to know that global infant mortality has gone massively down during my life time; the world is still a mess, but at least some details improve. It kind of gives me reason to continue being a bit optimistic. ;-)

Date: 2015-12-11 06:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com
I believe the world is also less violent than it was- with fewer people dying in wars than at any time before. It may not seem so, but things are getting better.

Date: 2015-12-11 06:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sorenr.livejournal.com
It's nice to know than as an optimistic idealist, one still has some sort of justification.

Date: 2015-12-11 04:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pondhopper.livejournal.com
To lose two children so close to each other...I don't think we realise just how difficult it was back then and until recently and still is in some parts of the world. I know my father lost one of his brothers at a very young age because of an illness we'd just treat with antibiotics these days.

Date: 2015-12-11 04:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com
Yes,

I wonder what it was that took Merrial and Simon. As you say it was probably something easily treatable today.

Date: 2015-12-11 04:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arielstarshadow.livejournal.com
How awful - there must have been some contagious illness wherever it was this family lived, and it took both children.

Date: 2015-12-11 06:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com
Plague perhaps. Or malaria. But it didn't take much to kill people in the 17th century. You caught a chill, it turned to pneumonia- and that was the end of you.

Date: 2015-12-12 11:59 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] heleninwales.livejournal.com
Things like scarlet fever used to kill whole families of children at one time.

Date: 2015-12-12 12:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com
All the childhood diseases we now take in our stride used to be killers.

Date: 2015-12-11 05:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] athenais.livejournal.com
Merrial is a lovely name. I've never heard it before.

John and I walk through country graveyards when we are in Wisconsin searching for family graves and see many examples like this of the youngest members of young families dying quite closely to each other. A heartbreaking summer for the Coates.

Date: 2015-12-11 06:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com
I suppose Merrial is an earlier form of Meryl.

There's a family plot at Cooling in North Kent which contains the graves of (I think) thirteen children from the one family. Dickens called it to mind when he was writing Great Expectations- only he cut the number of children to five because he didn't believe his readers would believe him if he gave the true number.

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