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Nov. 11th, 2013 11:10 am
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Many thanks to my friend [livejournal.com profile] ideealisme for drawing my attention to this article on poppies by Robert Fisk.  Like Fisk I didn't buy a poppy this year and like Fisk my feelings on the subject are somewhat blustery and incoherent. I think they're that way because the subject is just too big and too enormous and too distressing. Perhaps the easiest thing would be to tabulate them.

1. The Great War was the stupidest- most monstrous thing- we (meaning us Brits) have ever got mixed up in. Wearing a little red flower doesn't begin to deal with it.

2. Wearing a poppy has become a badge of social conformity- of fitting in- and so very largely meaningless. Fisk gets cross about everyone on TV wearing one- and so do I.

3. The people who sell poppies usually wear berets and I don't feel happy about supporting anything that smacks of militarism. The Great War was a crime of militarism- a failure of that whole way of thinking- and I'd rather our commemoration of it was kept clean of flags, medals, hymns, royal personages, politicians, berets, marching feet and any talk of heroism.

Re: In Kilkenny.

Date: 2013-11-11 03:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com
I'm afraid the two things have become mixed up together. Wearing a poppy has become a test of patriotism- as defined by all the people I can't be doing with- and I'm not prepared to play along.
Edited Date: 2013-11-11 03:18 pm (UTC)

Date: 2013-11-11 03:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cmcmck.livejournal.com
I'll happily put a tenner in the can (this year the collector I met was a splendid old Sikh WW2 veteran :o) but I won't wear a poppy, for much the reasons being discussed here.

Conformity for the sake of an easy life has never been my strongest suit.

Date: 2013-11-11 03:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com
I hate moral blackmail- and that's what it feels like.

Date: 2013-11-11 03:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cmcmck.livejournal.com
Yes, it does and as you can imagine, I have a great deal of personal experience at the sharp end of that dark art.

I don't like the enforcement of silence either. As a Quaker, I know how silence works without being forced to observe it for the sake of conformity once a year.

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