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Lets defy the marketing departments. Lets start a revolution in /on our heads

Let men wear PINK and little girls wear anything but.

Date: 2013-08-15 10:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cmcmck.livejournal.com
The idea that pink is for girls is a modern one. The Victorians considered pink way too manly and strong a colour for us mere members of the fair sex!

Date: 2013-08-15 10:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com
Exactly. Lets rid ourselves of the mind-forged manacles!
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Date: 2013-08-15 11:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com
Yeah! Let's reclaim pink as a manly colour.

Date: 2013-08-15 11:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chochiyo-sama.livejournal.com
As much as I respect and admire and love you, I will not surrender my favorite color. I will, however, rejoice in sharing it with you and your fellow manly men. :D

Date: 2013-08-15 12:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com
Exactly. I don't want to take it over. I want it to be a colour anyone can wear.

Date: 2013-08-15 11:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] idahoswede.livejournal.com
Very nice.

Date: 2013-08-15 12:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com
It's got beads! It's got little mirrors!

Date: 2013-08-15 12:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] idahoswede.livejournal.com
AND gold braid, what's not to love?

Date: 2013-08-15 12:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] steepholm.livejournal.com
It suits you.

Date: 2013-08-15 12:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com
Thank you.

Date: 2013-08-15 03:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pondhopper.livejournal.com
You look quite dapper! Very nice, indeed!

Date: 2013-08-15 03:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com
Thank you.

Date: 2013-08-15 03:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] w. lotus (from livejournal.com)
I'm in favor!

Date: 2013-08-15 03:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com
Excellent.

Date: 2013-08-15 05:09 pm (UTC)
sovay: (Cho Hakkai: intelligence)
From: [personal profile] sovay
Let men wear PINK and little girls wear anything but.

I like your manifestos.

Also, you look fantastic.

Date: 2013-08-15 06:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com
Thank you.

Date: 2013-08-15 06:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] setsuled.livejournal.com
Looks good.

This is part of the reason I carry a purse. Also because it's damned useful.

Date: 2013-08-15 06:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com
Right on!

Date: 2013-08-16 02:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] raakone.livejournal.com
Nice head covering there.

And it was only after World War II that pink became "girly," in part thanks to a campaign supported by the US Federal government encouraging women to "Think Pink" to get them acclimatized to leaving the wartime factory jobs. There was a time when things varied by country, city, and even store, who should wear what colors (and, perhaps as a prelude to stereotypes it would later be associated with, in San Fransisco, they believed pink was an appropriate color for *both* sexes) But even earlier, before World War I, for babies and young children at least, white or colorless were the usual choices, and often just a "daygown", with the only difference between genders being whether the buttons were in the front or back.

Date: 2013-08-16 07:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com
I've been wondering how pink got to be genderized in the 20th century and you've answered my unspoken question. Thank you.

It's scary how willing people are to do what their government says.

When I was a kid, boys coats fastened one way and girls coats fastened the other. Perhaps that still happens. God only knows what the point of it was!
Edited Date: 2013-08-16 07:41 am (UTC)

Date: 2013-08-16 08:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] charliemc.livejournal.com
I remember the first time I ever wore a shirt that was immediately identified as being a 'man's' shirt -- because of how it buttoned up! I was shocked! (Plus, because I was left-handed, I guess, it seemed to me that it worked better than my usual blouses... Hahahahaha.)

I've read historical novels and books forever -- and pink was frequently a color for MEN. Fascinating to hear how and why that all changed...

I love men in pink, which looks great on them!

Date: 2013-08-16 09:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com
Also, in the 19th century, blue was considered particularly appropriate for little girls. When Tenniel's illustrations for Alice were colourized her dress was generally shown as blue.

Date: 2013-08-17 06:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] raakone.livejournal.com
I've also noticed that Dorothy's dress had blue in its pattern....and the earlier Disney animated movies that were based off of fairy tales or children's classic literature, generally the main character, or main female, wore blue in some way.....Alice. Snow White. What color was Cinderella's ball gown? And Wendy's night gown? And in Sleeping Beauty, you have faeries arguing over what color Aurora's dress should be...blue or pink? Perhaps a subtle satire/critique of that issue?

Date: 2013-08-17 05:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] raakone.livejournal.com
With the side of the buttons, there's an interesting story....

At one time, among the well-to-do, women had servants who did EVERYTHING, even helped them get dressed (considering how unwieldy some of the dresses were, it made sense). Since people were expected to be right-handed, the buttons were on the side that the servant would face them from. Since men always dressed themselves, the buttons were on the opposite side. In the case of the button rule spreading, well...it's a case of people wanting to ape the higher classes!

Date: 2013-08-17 07:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com
That makes sense...

These customs that seem totally arbitrary, there's usually a reason for them- even a good reason- if you dig deep enough.

Date: 2013-08-16 08:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] charliemc.livejournal.com
You're fabulous in pink! (Great looking man, by the way!)

I so agree. I always seem to be telling some man how wonderful he looks when he wears pink...

Brave men wear pink, current fashions be damned!

I love this. (grin)

Date: 2013-08-16 09:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com
Many Thanks.

Date: 2013-08-16 11:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] heatherp8.livejournal.com
**Applauds**

Date: 2013-08-16 03:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ashlyme.livejournal.com
I covet your cap, sir! You need a nice brocade waistcoat to set it off.

Date: 2013-08-17 07:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com
I fancy the waistcoat, but I'll bet it would be really expensive.

The caps are cheap. I buy them online. This one cost about £10.

Date: 2013-08-18 01:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seaslug-of-doom.livejournal.com
When I look at your picture I feel that you're about to sell me a rug and that you're about to get the better part of the bargain due to timorous haggling on my part.

How dare you, sir!

Date: 2013-08-18 09:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com
It's very cheap at the price....

I'm cutting my own throat selling it at such a discount, but I like the colour of your eyes.

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