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Two reasons for believing people when they say they've had ghostly encounters:

1. Ghosts IRL are not very much like ghosts in fiction. If people were making things up you'd expect them to import fictional tropes: you know, sheeted spectres, blood-curdling laughter, all that Scooby stuff- and they don't.

2. There's a consistency about the reports. Ghosts have limited energy; they don't persist, they're accompanied by a drop in temperature, they can affect the physical environment- but not very much, they have an affinity with children, they can hack the telephone. There are things ghosts can do and things they can't. The evidence is anecdotal but it feels like a real phenomenon is being described.

And here's a third reason, of sorts: ghosts are common. When you deny their existence you're saying you think a very large proportion of your fellow humans- the people who say they've had ghostly encounters- are lying, delusional or stupid- and I'm just not that much of a cynic.

I've never seen a ghost but I've frequently brushed up against the odd. I don't have any difficulty believing the  "reality" we inhabit is permeable. 

Date: 2013-07-29 05:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] negothick.livejournal.com
Are you saying that one can experience the phenomena without ascribing human characteristics to them or assuming that they are represent the survival or traces of human beings after death? I'd like to know your "truth". . . .that is "much more amazing."
I have collected ghost stories all my life, and I've visited many reputedly haunted places, and until a few years ago I would have written "But have experienced nothing." I listened to others' tales and thought of other explanations.
That changed when I stood next to an enthusiastic ghost-hunter who was staring at a (reputedly-haunted) staircase as though she saw something. I saw nothing. Looking down at her digital camera, though, I saw the wavery outline of a white misty something, with a clearly-formed skeleton hand holding onto the bannister. She pressed the button, snapped the picture, and there it was. I can attest that no trickery took place, and I watched her upload it to a computer, with no photoshoppery possible. That's the first thing I've seen for which I have no explanation.

Date: 2013-07-29 06:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redatt.livejournal.com
It's both amazing and mundane that our brains can and do construct wholly believable experiences from tiny amounts of data.

Date: 2013-07-29 06:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redatt.livejournal.com
You can attest to being aware of no trickery.

Date: 2013-07-30 09:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] negothick.livejournal.com
True. But the picture-taker could barely use the little digital camera, and she didn't know how to upload--and I trust the person who brought the cable and laptop. It was all quick and extremely low-tech.

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