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Ian Mortimer's Elizabethan England is all plague, famine, crime, cruelty, religious intolerance, misogyny and child abuse. I tumbled to what he was doing when he represented the however-many it-was compulsory saints days as something imposed on a groaning populace by the lordly church without mentioning that they also served as jolly holidays.  If you cherry-pick your facts and relentlessly accentuate the negative you can make any society seem hellish-  and that includes our own (God save you) even though we do possess the flush toilets and electric lights the Elizabethans suffered without.

Date: 2013-06-01 10:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] steepholm.livejournal.com
They did have a flush toilet! As invented by Sir John Harington, the Queen's godson, translator of Orlando Furioso, writer of epigrams ("Treason doth never prosper, / What's the reason? / For if it prosper / None dare call it treason"), and general court goofball. He wrote about it in A New Discourse upon a Stale Subject: The Metamorphosis of Ajax (1586) [Ajax = a jakes, geddit?].

Unfortunately he forgot to invent the u-bend, so it didn't really take off.

Date: 2013-06-01 10:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com
Ah, yes. Of course. I remember seeing a reconstruction of the Harington loo at the lavatory museum in Stoke.

Harington wrote that? I never knew. It's one of my favourite epigrams.

Date: 2013-06-01 11:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davesmusictank.livejournal.com
I have his book in paperback which i have yet to read, as well as his Tie Traveller's Guide To Medieval England

Date: 2013-06-01 01:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com
I wonder if the books are as dour and grim as the TV programme?

Date: 2013-06-01 08:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moth-wingthane.livejournal.com
I didn't get to watch the programme yet but I have recorded it. I'm feeling as though I might be better off just deleting it.

Date: 2013-06-01 09:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com
Give it a whirl. I found it tendentious but, all the same, it told me things I didn't know.

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