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May. 1st, 2013 02:00 pm
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We are a society in which the rape of children is common. And in which child rapists in positions of prominence and authority- in schools, churches, social services departments, the judicial system, the entertainment industry, politics up to the level of national government- have been winked at and protected.

We're finally beginning to wake up to the extent of our shame.

This morning they arrested Bill Roache on suspicion of raping a 15 year old.

Bill Roache!

Date: 2013-05-02 12:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] resonant.livejournal.com
(whoops, posted on wrong comment).

I am a licensed professional engineer. Suppose I accidentally make a mistake when I design my first bridge. I then have a long and successful career. I retire. The mistake I made suddenly manifests. The bridge then collapses, causing injury and death. Even though decades have passed, and even though I may no longer remember the details, I would be in court. Tort law and contract law do have time limits in some jurisdictions, but liability periods are still measured in decades.

If I am liable for decades for something that I do accidentally, I don't see why there is a short liability period for things people do ON PURPOSE.

Date: 2013-05-02 01:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kishenehn.livejournal.com
There are two major differences. The first one is civil versus criminal liability -- you might be liable in civil court, but in first-world legal systems you wouldn't be liable in criminal court. The second difference is that even after its collapse, the design of your bridge could be documented, and that's certainly not the case for a 50-year-old alleged sexual assault.

The final, and most important, thing to remember is the basic principle of "innocent until proven guilty." An accusation is not the same as proof ... despite your apparent assumption that in this case, it is.

Date: 2013-05-02 02:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] resonant.livejournal.com
Her teacher is dead, so it'd be hard to put him on trial. So I'm OK with accepting her statement that he did it.

Both civil and criminal liability apply in Canada. In a recent example, an engineer designed a mall in the late 1970s, and it was constructed in 1980. The mall collapsed last year. The government is now tracking down the engineers involved over the years, and is laying criminal charges.

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2013/04/22/elliot_lake_mall_collapse_engineer_faces_safety_charges.html

Date: 2013-05-02 02:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kishenehn.livejournal.com
I don't want to belabor this, so let me just be clear that my comment was addressing only the charges in the celebrity case referenced in the original post.

And I'm thankful that there are twelve people on most juries, instead of just one.

Date: 2013-05-02 07:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cmcmck.livejournal.com
Oh he did it- no doubt of that.

[livejournal.com profile] kishenehn wasn't referring to my experience though, but to Roache's victim.

Date: 2013-05-02 07:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cmcmck.livejournal.com
The allegation is now rape, with which he has now been charged and it looks as if there may be more than one count to be taken into consideration.
Edited Date: 2013-05-02 07:39 am (UTC)

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