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Do I want to see a film about Alexander the Great?

Not really.

I had the same problem with Troy. Man-killing Achilles, even when airbrushed to suit Brad Pitt's image and sensibilities, is not someone I want to spend much time with.

The 20th century's experience of war and empire has revolutionized our taste in heroes. We no longer favour aggressors like Alexander. We identify instead with the resistance. We want to see Russell Crowe take on the Roman Empire or Viggo Mortensen fight his way to a crown that is justly his.

Being asked to cheer for Alexander is a bit like being asked to cheer for Mordor.

Date: 2005-01-11 09:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com
We Brits have always loved the under-dog. Our national myths are all about being sore oppressed . We dwell on defeats like Dunkirk and Arnhem, celebrating them as if they were victories. Winning is much less important to us than showing pluck.

But perhaps we can indulge this odd taste because we have always triumphed in the final round.

Date: 2005-01-11 09:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] catvalente.livejournal.com
And of course, with Britain, that goes back to the times when you were underdogs in the European parade--it seems like that's a hard conceit for any nation to give up.

Date: 2005-01-11 09:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com
In the end it turns into rank sentimentality. It's getting to be pathological how we can't put WWII behind us.

Date: 2005-01-11 09:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] catvalente.livejournal.com
Don't get me started. At least in Europe it's acknowledged that WWI happened--we don't even do that much. We fetishize WWII because we want all our conflicts to be so black and white, so that no one will question the necessity of war. Except it wasn't actually so easy then.

Greatest generation my ass. I want to stop hearing that. Now.

Date: 2005-01-11 09:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com
I liked Private Ryan- but then Spielberg got a bad case of ancestor worship and just wouldn't let the subject drop.

All those little boys my age who feel they can't consider themselves to be really men because they weren't there to participate in the storming of Omaha Beach.....

Date: 2005-01-11 09:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] catvalente.livejournal.com
First 28 minutes were horrifying and brilliant. The rest was a stock WWII movie that might as well have starred John Wayne. Every stereotype nicely represented. Stupid cameos, stilted dialogue, silly heroics in a movie that started out saying how insane war is, and then fell into the same pattern as every war movie ever made. The movie was a wash, except for its opening sequence.

Date: 2005-01-11 09:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com
I'm afraid you're right.....

Spielberg is a huge talent, but his sentimentality undermines film after film.

And women are all but absent from his world. If it's not about fathers and sons he really doesn't have a clue....

Date: 2005-01-11 10:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] catvalente.livejournal.com
Oh, of course.

Women are there to betray you or welcome you home after a hard day's heroing. That's all. Spielberg is a joke when it comes to representing the human condition--maybe that's why our perception is so fucked up these days. He's the one that's writing it large.

Date: 2005-01-11 10:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com
It saddens me.

I think he's a great artist.

And I increasingly hate what he stands for.

He's the boy who never grew up. It seems to me that a lot of American artists conform to this arche/stereotype.

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