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Jan. 2nd, 2005 09:40 am
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Here's a list of the top comedians of all time, as voted for by fellow comics in a poll organized by Channel 4.

1. Peter Cook
2. John Cleese
3. Woody Allen
4. Eric Morecambe
5. Groucho Marx
6. Tommy Cooper
7. Laurel and Hardy
8. Billy Connolly
9. Vic Reeves and Bob Mortimer
10. Richard Pryor
11. Chris Morris
12. Tony Hancock
13. Bill Hicks
14. Peter Sellers
15. Steve Martin
16. Ronnie Barker
17. Steve Coogan
18. Charlie Chaplin
19. Eddie Izzard
20. Paul Merton

I imagine a lot of these names are going to mean nothing on the far side of the Atlantic.

I've already written a couple of posts about Peter Cook; he seems to be dead fashionable right now. I don't get it, I really don't.

In the tall, manic Englishman stakes I prefer Cleese. Python and Fawlty Towers were much more fully achieved than any of the rather scrappy things Cook did for TV.

Woody Allen. OK, that's probably about right.

Eric Morecambe. A parochial choice.

Groucho. Yes, yes, yes. But where are Harpo and Chico? Those guys were a team.

Tommy Cooper... but I'm getting bored with this exercise already.

But how can Charlie Chaplin score less than middle-of-the road TV comic Ronnie Barker? And where are Buster Keaton and Harold Lloyd?

It's a generational thing. The voters are largely middle-aged and so we have a list weighted to comics who were at their prime in the 60s, 70s and 80s. Older names are downgraded and today's comedy gods (guys with shows currently in the schedules)- Ricky Gervais, Walliams and Lucas, Larry David- don't feature at all.

Oh- and what a surprise- no women!

Date: 2005-01-02 07:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] karenkay.livejournal.com
I love Billy Connolly, but not necessarily as a comedian. He is a WONDERFUL actor, and so underworked. He just totally steals the show in whatever he's in. I just saw "The Last Samurai", and I was sorry that he was in so little of it and Tom Cruise in so much of it.

Date: 2005-01-02 08:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com
Connolly is probably the best British stand-up. He was at his best (I think) when younger and angrier. More recently his comedy has been drifting into safer waters.

Everyone says how good he is in Mrs Brown. I'm afraid I haven't seen it.

Date: 2005-01-02 08:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] karenkay.livejournal.com
You should. Really. It was an excellent film.

Hm. According to IMDB, he's been in 39 movies since 1975. Including "Lemony Snicket". Haven't seen most of them. I gather that the drama thing is new for him, since Mrs. Brown.

I liked him as standup, but he was too angry for me. I liked his TV show better, because it was more controlled. I guess I like him older because he still has all his young-angry sensibility, but he gets it across more effectively now.

Date: 2005-01-02 08:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com
I enjoyed a TV thing he did where he was travelling across Australia on a quad bike, doing gigs on the way.

At one point he got naked and ran about on a beach. That's not something you see every day!

Date: 2005-01-02 09:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] karenkay.livejournal.com
It's something I'd like to see every day, though.:)

Date: 2005-01-02 09:10 am (UTC)

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