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Oct. 29th, 2012 04:47 pm
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I would have liked to have been a magus, but I didn't have the necessary patience, discipline or respect for authority.

Date: 2012-10-30 12:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com
When it came to magic, my substance sent me mixed messages.

Date: 2012-10-31 03:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] veronikos.livejournal.com
>> ...my substance sent me mixed messages.

Just so, just so. The common thought of public and commercialized occulture is that the mind must be trained to make images and focus and concentrate on them until they come into manifestation. This, as you may mean to imply, is so hit-and-miss a method that it is astonishing how long-lived it has been.

A more truthful approach lies in the idea "Quod nulla vox operatur in magia, nisi prius Dei voce formetur". The greater mystery lies in the physical body, itself. Only a physical body prepared for magic can wield the power of magic. So, you are being very lucid when you say that your substance sent you mixed messages. :D

Date: 2012-10-31 10:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com
I have always had a geeky disregard for the physical body.

The Church Fathers are probably to blame.

I think of the magician as self-neglecting garret-dweller- like a Christian saint without the Christianity. That he might be a person who cultivates and trains his body is a new and challenging thought to me.

Date: 2012-11-02 02:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] michaleen.livejournal.com
Why without the Christianity? Systems like John Dee's, for instance, are more-or-less respectably C of E, with a bit of sex and goddess worship thrown-in to leaven things a bit.

Physical development has been best-practice since at least Crowley's A.'.A.'., to my mind, which of course he developed with considerable input from other alumni of the Golden Dawn. I've known three magic types, my own teacher among them, that began their path in martial arts.

At a minimum I'd advise some solid attainment in two of the eight limbs of raja yoga: posture and breath control. Personally, I'd strongly recommend hatha yoga as well. It is effort very well spent for a host of reasons.

Date: 2012-11-03 10:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com
Why "Without the Christianity""?

It's a personal thing. I've had enough Christianity in this lifetime to last me for several.

Date: 2012-11-03 11:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] michaleen.livejournal.com
I can see that.

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