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Judy has a side job tutoring little Korean kids and she just read Rikki-Tikki-Tavi with one of them. Now she wants to expand his knowledge of Kipling by adding Gunga Din, Recessional and The White Man's Burden.

No, no, no, no!  Look, personally I'd be prepared to defend all three, but it's no use pretending they're not problematic. If you wanted to dismiss Kipling as irrelevant and racist (as many have done and still do) these are the texts on which you'd base your argument. ("Lesser breeds without the Law" for pity's sake!) How about substituting Danny Deever, or Follow Me 'Ome (gay subtext) or Mary Pity Women (as feminist as anything you're likely to harvest from the 1890s).

Or one of the poems from the Puck books.

Or Mandalay or Ford O' Kabul River (The first rule of international politics is don't invade Afghanistan, you fools!)

I've got a long car journey ahead of me today and I can see I'm going to be spending it riffling through the Collected Kipling I keep in my head.

PS. I expect to be offline for a couple of days, so if I don't reply to comments it's not (just) because I'm rude and ignorant.

Date: 2012-06-17 08:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] huskyteer.livejournal.com

Ooh, The Law of the Jungle! That's a great one.

Edited Date: 2012-06-17 03:21 pm (UTC)

Date: 2012-06-17 09:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jfs.livejournal.com
The Jungle Book, surely? It still has its problems, but it's just glorious.

And eventually, Kim.

Date: 2012-06-17 10:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] veronica-milvus.livejournal.com
Or "You're a better man than I, Gunga Din".

Date: 2012-06-17 10:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] michaleen.livejournal.com
Kipling's appalling racism and cultural chauvinism is precisely what makes him so vitally important in understanding British history and culture. In comparison, "Mandalay", despite being one of my favorite poems, is just so much Orientalism.

Date: 2012-06-17 10:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daisytells.livejournal.com
I endorse "The Jungle Books" and "Kim".

Date: 2012-06-17 12:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] steepholm.livejournal.com
How little are these little kids? The Just So stories are a possibility, I suppose?

Date: 2012-06-17 02:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lblanchard.livejournal.com
The poems that accompany the Just So Stories are wonderful -- especially the one about getting the hump, just like the camel. With its useful moral lesson (quotation approximate):

The cure for this ill is not to sit still
Nor to frowst with a book by the fire
But to take a large hoe and a shovel also
And to dig till you gently perspire.

Date: 2012-06-17 02:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ron-broxted.livejournal.com
"Tales from the Raj". As a now deceased IRA volunteer said to me in 1990 "Kipling is Thatcher's favourite author".

Date: 2012-06-17 04:06 pm (UTC)
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I've got a long car journey ahead of me today and I can see I'm going to be spending it riffling through the Collected Kipling I keep in my head.

I'm just going to be singing him all day now. Thank you very much!

My knowledge of Kipling started with the Just So Stories and The Jungle Book, which may have been problematic in all their varying ways, but one of the earliest things I can remember wanting for myself (from a store on Church Street in Harvard Square that no longer exists; my father used to take me there to look for presents for my mother) was a little china turtle that would someday, like the little china hedgehog I wanted to place next to it, turn into an armadillo.

And then years later when I discovered he was a real poet, it just made me happy.

How about substituting Danny Deever, or Follow Me 'Ome (gay subtext) or Mary Pity Women (as feminist as anything you're likely to harvest from the 1890s).

I thought of "Tommy." We're still not very good at treating our returning soldiers right.

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