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poliphilo ([personal profile] poliphilo) wrote2011-02-13 10:10 pm

The Wasteland

I took Eliot down to verify the quote I used to head the previous post- and found myself reading Prufrock to Ailz.  Afterwards I read her The Waste Land. Eliot is very good to read aloud. Later I found myself telling Mike- via Skype- that he should read The Waste Land. Well, one should, shouldn't one? It's a foundation stone of the modern world.

I've been thinking about the parallels between Eliot and Picasso-  how the multiple voices of The Wasteland are like the multiple viewpoints in a Cubist painting and how its use of quotation and near-quotation resembles collage.  Both artists are trying to get at the truth by surrounding it.

[identity profile] daisytells.livejournal.com 2011-02-13 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Eliot bridges a gap between Britain and the US. We studied his work in both British Literature and American Literature.
I love his "Old Possum's Book of Practical Cats" - and "Prufrock" is the first long poem I memorized as an 18 year old young adult. "The Waste Land" has always spoken to me. Likewise the Picasso paintings and graphics that have crossed my path, particularly "Guernica".

[identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com 2011-02-14 09:33 am (UTC)(link)
You gave us Eliot and we gave you Auden and Isherwood.

[identity profile] daisytells.livejournal.com 2011-02-14 08:04 pm (UTC)(link)
For which I thank you all very much.

[identity profile] kinderheldin.livejournal.com 2011-02-14 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
In the mountains, there you feel free ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tqK5zQlCDQ

[identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com 2011-02-14 09:36 am (UTC)(link)
What a strange, clipped, donnish voice it is!

wei la la

[identity profile] veronica-milvus.livejournal.com 2011-02-14 09:18 am (UTC)(link)
The Waste Land is my least favourite poem although I like the opening lines. I can't be doing with any piece of work that needs a concordance before the woman on the Clapham omnibus has any hope of understanding it. I can't help feeling that Eliot and Pound were having an enormous Tracy-Emin style laugh at the pomposity of culture fans and the whole thing is the Emperor's New Stanzas. Never mind surrounding the truth, let's state it plainly.

Re: wei la la

[identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com 2011-02-14 09:43 am (UTC)(link)
But it's so beautiful.

'Trams and dusty trees.
Highbury bore me. Richmond and Kew
Undid me. By Richmond I raised my knees
Supine on the floor of a narrow canoe.'
'My feet are at Moorgate, and my heart
Under my feet. After the event
He wept. He promised "a new start".
I made no comment. What should I resent?'
'On Margate Sands.
I can connect
Nothing with nothing.
The broken fingernails of dirty hands.
My people humble people who expect
Nothing.'

Nothing difficult about that- Just flat-out, grief-stricken lyricism.