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Date: 2009-12-13 01:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shullie.livejournal.com
this was brought up on the Moral Maze (BBC Radio 4) last night, regarding a discussion on what it the true meaning of Christmas in the somewhat secular society... though there were no Pagans there giving evidence, there were some interesting thoughts hared.. especially about the role of Christianity as revolution, and that Christmas should be seen as the fuse!

Date: 2009-12-13 01:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shullie.livejournal.com
I will pass this on, if that's okay...xxx

:(

Date: 2009-12-13 01:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ideealisme.livejournal.com
That is disgusting. Thank you for bringing it to our attention.

Date: 2009-12-13 02:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com
If you look at the heart of the Christmas myth there's something highly revolutionary going on. "I shall put down the mighty from their seats and exalt the humble and meek." Herod didn't kill all those babies on a whim....

Date: 2009-12-13 02:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com
Please do. The more people who know about it the better. :)

Re: :(

Date: 2009-12-13 02:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com
Pass it on. :)

Date: 2009-12-13 03:46 pm (UTC)
ext_12726: (fairy thorn)
From: [identity profile] heleninwales.livejournal.com
There is a video on the official St Nicolas web site.

http://www.stnicholascenter.org/Brix?pageID=867

Honestly, what were these security guards thinking? :(

Date: 2009-12-13 04:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] silverhawkdruid.livejournal.com
Sickened by this. Sending the link and the video link to everyone I can.

Date: 2009-12-13 05:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com
Excellent!

Date: 2009-12-13 05:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com
I don't particularly blame the guards. They were under orders and afraid of losing their jobs. I blame a government that not only locks up innocent kids but farms out the dirty work to a company that's prepared to do it for a profit.

Thanks for the link.

Date: 2009-12-13 06:32 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] oakmouse
Well, that's appalling. :-p

Date: 2009-12-13 06:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shullie.livejournal.com
though I am not a Christian, but not allowing those gift to be given, and indeed the imprisonment of children is utterly disgraceful.

Date: 2009-12-13 06:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] calizen.livejournal.com
Do you think with all the bad publicity, Yarl's Wood would reconsider?

Date: 2009-12-13 07:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daisytells.livejournal.com
Yikes! What is going on in the world today? Children imprisoned? Denied Holiday gifts? God help us all!

Date: 2009-12-13 09:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com
I think government might reconsider. There's an election looming. They don't want to look inhumane.

Date: 2009-12-13 09:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com
It's the logical outcome of a punitive approach to immigration.

Date: 2009-12-13 09:17 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] heleninwales.livejournal.com
Well, In my youth I worked for a few years in the Civil Service, the most hierarchical organisation you can imagine, and the correct procedure when faced with something you have no authority to deal with is to pass the buck up to your superior.

The guards should have realised that they were out of their depth and they should have called on their boss to come out and deal with the funny guys in the robes.

But I do agree with you that this sort of thing shouldn't be farmed out to companies trying to make a profit out of it.

Date: 2009-12-14 05:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] calizen.livejournal.com
Good, go get 'em!

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