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In the morning we went and wandered round Kenilworth Castle. We have a year's membership of English Heritage- and I mean to get my money's worth. Kenilworth belonged to a guy called de Clinton (an ancestor of Bill's?  I wonder...) who was your archetypal Norman brute and then to Simon de Montfort and John of Gaunt and a succession of English kings. It was a place where history happened. Eventually it passed to Robert Dudley- Elizabeth I's favourite- who went on a building spree and turned it into a Tudor palace. It got caught up in the Civil War and Cromwell slighted it- demolishing walls so it could never be garrisoned again. Most of it has been in ruins ever since.



Castles leave me cold, I've decided. Most of them, anyway. Kenilworth impresses, but is all about power and money and violence and ambition. 

Give me a monastic ruin anyday....

There's one on the other side of town, in the grounds of the parish church. Monasteries are about power and money and violence and ambition too- but also something else.

Here's what's left of the gatehouse...



And here's a curiosity. A romanesque doorway, snaffelled from the abbey, surrounded by Elizabethan fancy-work and installed in the parish church. This was probably done by Robert Dudley as part of an attempt to tart up the church in anticipation of a visit from the queen.



And here- just because I like it- is the churchyard path.



Curious. All these pictures are of gateways, portals.... I think it must say something about my current state of mind.

In the evening we went to see Hamlet... but I've already written about that.

Date: 2008-09-02 09:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] huskyteer.livejournal.com
The last photo is lovely. I always like tree-lined roads.

Date: 2008-09-02 09:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com
Thanks.

I had to snap it quickly while the person at the end was still in view.

Date: 2008-09-02 11:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pondhopper.livejournal.com
Castles have their charm but I have to agree with you about monastic ruins. English Heritage has some truly fabulous and offbeat properties. The last photo with the almost ghostly figure at the end is wonderful as is the romanesque doorway.

I have developed a love of old cemeteries.




Date: 2008-09-02 11:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] karenkay.livejournal.com
What a Romanesque doorway! Quite elaborate.

I like the photo of the castle, not for the castle, but because of the contrasting greenery beyond. It's almost a "this is what we were fighting for" photo.

And of course, the churchyard path is great. All those bodies nourishing those trees, and the figure in the distance.

Date: 2008-09-02 12:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com
I've been photographing graveyards for 40 years. I particularly love 18th century tombstones with their big, chunky, folk-arty carvings of death's heads and cherubs.

Date: 2008-09-02 12:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com
I love anything romanesque- all that bold, chunky carving. The pointed decoration on the middle band of the arch is actually made up of fabulous, long-snouted beasties.

I took a lot of pictures at the castle, but that's the only one I really like- maybe because it seems to offer an escape route.

I had to get my skates on to capture that vista down the pathway before the figure "disappeared".

Date: 2008-09-02 12:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] karenkay.livejournal.com
I don't know if you feel like you're getting your money's worth from your English Heritage membership, but I feel like I'm getting it!

Date: 2008-09-02 12:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scathedobsidian.livejournal.com
Wow, that's fantastic. I'm jealous of this little photo outing.

Date: 2008-09-02 01:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pondhopper.livejournal.com
Ah...I love those, too, as well as medieval tombs.

It's not 18th century but did you see the pictures I posted yesterday of Nunhead Cemetery?

Date: 2008-09-02 01:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com
Not yet... I'll go look.

Date: 2008-09-02 02:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com
Heh-heh-heh.

Actually, a lot of the best stuff's for free. We didn't have to pay anything to wander round Kenilworth parish church.

Date: 2008-09-02 02:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com
Thanks.

I just love a ruin.

Date: 2008-09-02 02:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nostoi.livejournal.com
I love avenues of trees, and I especially love the sign outside the church. :)

Date: 2008-09-02 02:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tinceiri.livejournal.com
What brought you to this particular site?

Date: 2008-09-02 02:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] karenkay.livejournal.com
I've said this before, there is something so inherently English about your photographs. I'm not much of an Anglophile, but I appreciate their authenticity.

Date: 2008-09-02 02:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] solar-diablo.livejournal.com
That last photo is striking, not least because I'm trying to decide how the graves got so close to the bases of those trees. The bodies must have been buried first, and then saplings planted. In colder, darker weather, it looks as though it would be the perfect setting for the Headless Horseman to chase poor Ichabod to the bridgehouse.

British countryside has me thinking about American folklore - curious.


Date: 2008-09-02 03:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] queen-in-autumn.livejournal.com
Gorgeous photos, as always. I particularly like the first and last ones.

I love castles.

Date: 2008-09-02 04:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com
Thanks.

I'm not entirely sure what "English" looks like- but I know it's what I'm trying to capture...

Date: 2008-09-02 04:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com
It's a friendly church. There was a woman inside- as there so often is- doing the flower arrangements.

Date: 2008-09-02 04:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com
Happenstance.

We were in the neighbourhood because we'd got tickets for the theatre in Stratford- about five miles away. We knew the castle was worth seeing- and I'm always on the lookout for anything old and ecclsiastical.

Date: 2008-09-02 04:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com
I think you're right, the graves are 19th century and were almost certainly there before the trees.

Washington Irving was an Anglophile and England is positively swarming with headless ghosts.

Date: 2008-09-02 04:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com
Thanks.

I prefer my castles small and intimate. There's something cold and impersonal about the really big ones like Kenilworth.

Date: 2008-09-02 04:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] solar-diablo.livejournal.com
England is positively swarming with headless ghosts.

Well, you did have an affinity for the chopping block in your day!

Makes me think the American West should have ghosts running around with hangman's nooses about their necks.

Date: 2008-09-02 04:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] karenkay.livejournal.com
I don't know what it means, either, other than that with most of your photographs, even if I didn't know where they taken, I'd have to say "England!"

Date: 2008-09-02 04:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com
Something to do with the light maybe?

Date: 2008-09-02 04:48 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] oakmouse
Lovely photos! That path... wow, wow, wow.

Date: 2008-09-02 05:09 pm (UTC)
sovay: (Lord Peter Wimsey)
From: [personal profile] sovay
And here- just because I like it- is the churchyard path.

It looks like the Sibyl's Cave at Cumae with trees.

Date: 2008-09-02 07:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ibid.livejournal.com
All rather fabulous!

Date: 2008-09-02 07:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com
I don't know about nooses, but, from what I hear, some of those Wild West towns- Tombstone for instance-are full of ghosts.

Date: 2008-09-02 07:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com
I'm glad you like that one. It's my favourite.

Date: 2008-09-02 07:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com
Yes! Yes! Yes!

Date: 2008-09-02 07:36 pm (UTC)

Date: 2008-09-02 08:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] solar-diablo.livejournal.com
Hmmm...I've been to Tombstone. The "ancient" 19th century graveyards are interesting, as is the scene of the OK Corral and courthouse-cum-gallows. But I never saw much by way of ghosts there. Maybe they have to season a few more centuries.

Date: 2008-09-03 01:42 am (UTC)
sovay: (I Claudius)
From: [personal profile] sovay
Poem?

Date: 2008-09-03 08:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com
I doubt it. These days poems either descend on me in droves- so I'm powerless to resist- or they keep their distance. I don't seem to have any way of summoning them.

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