Victorian Architecture

[poliphilo]

Drooping eyelids cut short an interesting, wide-ranging conversation with sorenr last night. Now- 12 hours later- I'm taking it up again.

We'd gotten on to Victorian architecture. I grew up in the 50s and 60s, when the critical consensus (only just beginning to break up) was that Victorian architecture was florid and hideous. People like Sir John Betjeman said different, but they were all teddy bear-hugging eccentrics, weren't they?

I've never wholly overcome that early conditioning. I go and stare at Manchester Town Hall and try to love it and never quite succeed. It's grand, but where's the soul? And all that machine-tooled ornament is just too crisp and regular. There was a programme the other day about Tower Bridge. Dan Cruikshank (whom I admire) spent an hour trying to convince me that it's a wonderful building, but, sorry, it still looks kitsch to me.

Now Victorian engineering- that's something else. I worship Brunel. I love the ghost of the Crystal Palace. I marvel over the Forth Bridge. But the Civic and Ecclesiastical architecture of the period just doesn't do it for me. It's not that it's ugly- it isn't- it's just that it's insincere, it's play-acting. It's a chap in mutton-chop whiskers putting on tights and tabard and strutting about.

Comments

[archyena.livejournal.com]

A disgust with Victorian architecture isn't a bad thing. Generally, I see the Victorian styles as a singular departure from history and good aesthetics generally. But then, I'm prone to unseemly bouts of classicism.

[sorenr.livejournal.com]

Oh, this would be a hard one to answer; I might try to put away my classicly modernist views on architecture (this is still what is tought at Scandinavian schools of architecture...) and make a defense for the Victorians. I'm too confused to do it straight away, though, so you'll have to wait a bit, but it'll come...

[ibid.livejournal.com]

You CANNOT be defending 60's architecture can you?!?!?!!??

There's Victorian and Victorian. I have always rather liked the earlier stuff and I like the centre of Newcastle with is quite hadsome. But the on-the-verge-of-Edwardian stiff I agree is vile.

I am learning to warm to the Georgean style though I think that lacks soul - like much of the 18th c it was the visible so much and for that reason I have never really warmed to the literature of the time.