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I've been reading Peter Brook's The Empty Space and it's taken me back to theological college in the early seventies. John Armson, the college chaplain, recommended it to us because, he argued,  ecclesiastical ritual is another form of theatre and Brook's radical thinking would freshen up our chancels. 

I didn't take him up on the recommendation because I was awkward that way- counter-suggestible.  Besides, I didn't like him. He'd shouted at me twice (and I hate to be shouted at): once because he didn't think I was praying enough (he was also my spiritual director) and once because I praised Stevie Smith as "anti-Christian" and he couldn't see how a Christian could encounter a person like that and not want to smite them. He was a hard person to be around. Unpredictable. You'd be having a nice, polite, Oxbridgey conversation about poetry and stuff and the fanatic in him would suddenly leap from ambush and take you by the throat.

I could kick myself now for being so touchy- because in retrospect I like him tremendously. I think of him as the most thoroughly medieval person I've ever known-  by which I mean the most austere and spiritual. He's still out there, nearing seventy, living (I rather think) on the Welsh borders. It would be nice to get in touch with him again.

Especially now I'm equipped to engage him in that long delayed conversation about Peter Brook.  Well, I'd say, I see what you're driving at, but does a priest at his altar really have the freedom an actor or director has to make things new?

Date: 2008-04-27 11:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] margaretarts.livejournal.com
I like that neologism: counter-suggestible.

A few decades after college, I'm still counter-suggestible. If the last 2 films that a friend suggested to me turned out to be horrid in my opinion, I'll know not to take her film reviews to heart for myself. Maybe you do this, too, and I prefer to think of it as a time-saving device.

Date: 2008-04-28 12:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amritarosa.livejournal.com
We read that book as part of the Dramatic Ritual & Theater discussion group a couple of years ago. It's one of my favorites and I recommend it (and Mamet's True & False) to any budding ritualist who asks me for suggested reading.

Full o'good stuff.
From: [identity profile] saare-snowqueen.livejournal.com
I don't know about today as religious ritual seems, in Orthodoxy - at least - to have calcified. But, clearly religious ritual at its origins was intrinsically linked to theater performance. Especially during the late middle ages, the great masses that accompanied Saint's Day observances were not only performances but one objective was absolutely the same as modern theater - that of eliciting funds from the audience, in the earlier case to fund the building of all those spectacular churches.

Date: 2008-04-28 07:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] manfalling.livejournal.com
Beside the point, but-

Yesterday 10 people (or one person 10 times?) came to my website after searching for 'tony grist' in a search engine. That's strange from the off because my site is only on the 5th page in Google after that search.

I wonder why the sudden interest in you (or at least sudden interest that leads to me)? I panicked for a second and thought you'd died or something!

Date: 2008-04-28 10:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] richenda.livejournal.com
Don't you think that there is an importnat distinction between liturgical dramatization and "theatre"?
Also, there's an important distinction - isn't there - between (for example) dramatizing the Passion and celebrating the Eucharist? I remain appalled by a certain bishop who called the Eucharist a dramatic presentation - but perhaps we are not of one mind on this point.

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