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When I left the Church in 1986 I wasn't yet ready to give up on religion, so I read lots of books and flirted with lots of spiritualities and wound up as a pagan.

It was the Goddess who drew me in. After all those years spent worshipping a masculine Deity some sort of balancing was needed.

For a while I was a pagan evangelist. 

Then Ailz and I became witches and ran a coven. That was brilliant fun.

But somehow- and I can't say exactly how- the need went away.

If I say I grew out of it, it sounds patronising. But maybe we shouldn't be afraid to patronise religion.

The dangerous question is "Why?"  Why am I wandering round this room naked with a sword in my hand?  Why am I addressing the empty air  in mock-Elizabethan English? Why am I wearing these papier-mache horns on my head and pretending to be Pan?

It's not that I became a materialist. I still think the universe is full of gods and spirits and ghosts. I'm one of them- and so are you and you and you; we're all working our passage. But I don't require sweet savours and people bobbing up and down in front of me- and I question the sanity and ethics of any spook that does.

I devised a Wiccan third degree initiation which ended with the candidate facing an unshaded window with her back to the temple. That was effectively the end of it for me. Look, I was saying to the candidate (but mainly acknowledging to myself) you don't need all that jiggery-pokery any more.

Date: 2007-07-17 04:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pondhopper.livejournal.com
It seems that religion is like anything else we might embrace. When it stops speaking to whatever inner inner prompt directed us in that direction, it ceases to be a valid choice.

Sometimes looking away from it is far more fulfilling than turning our spiritual eyes inward towards the tenets of a strutured religion. Long ago I stopped being a formal anything religion-wise. It took a certain amount of courage because the fear of my strict Polish Roman Catholic upbringing always made visions of hell figure in my dreams.

Funny thing, though. These days I feel far freer and more aware of what spirit(itual) means than before.

Date: 2007-07-17 09:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] algabal.livejournal.com
I think you can get the "good stuff" from a religion (or even a sect of a religion) without actually joining a church. I need the tradition, the ideas, the symbols of Catholicism, but am not a member of the church.

Date: 2007-07-18 12:48 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] oakmouse
One of the reasons I love my deities so much is that when I asked them what they wanted from me in the way of offerings, rituals, etc, the response I got was "All we want from you is love."

Well, that was a no-brainer, because I love them anyway. When the fact that they meant what they said sank in, it was a very freeing experience (especially for someone who went from Catholicism to ceremonial magic before hitting paganism). Nothing I have to do to "be good"? Just be myself? Wow...

I occasionally make offerings, but usually when I'm asking a favor; I think of it as being like giving a friend gas money in return for getting a ride to a distant store. Likewise, I sometimes do a ritual for them, but only when I feel that it's right. It's a whole different world than compulsory attendance.

Date: 2007-07-18 01:42 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mokie
I think when you're comfortably living with the spiritual in your everyday life, you don't need to seek it in special holidays, occasions and rituals.

When you've lost touch with the mundane sacredness of life, that's when you need those special acts of reconnection.

Date: 2007-07-23 02:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] manfalling.livejournal.com
These days I don`t feel much need to go out on a Sunday and spend the day playing frisbee.

It`s not the same as church sure- but in my head I`ve often thought of the 2 as pretty similar. It`s a community of all sorts, that stretches round the world, and once you`re IN that community, I`d say it`s wider and more inviting and accepting than most any other sport. I could go to just about any big city in the world, hook up with a frisbee team there, and because the sport is still not mainstream, the people will probably welcome me, and I may even know some of them, or they`ll know someone that I know.

We all go out on a Sunday morning and spend some time deeply involved in doing the same thing.

But these days I`m losing interest. Perhaps what I got from it, and what I had to give to it, no longer works for me. Sounds like your feeling wit the covenning.

Likewise I wonder if I`ll regain that interest. I think maybe not, though.

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