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We watched Harry Potter and The Chamber of Secrets last night- Ailz on her nine-inch bed-side TV and me on the wide screen at home. Afterwards we discussed it on the phone.

What did you think?

It was fun.

Yes- fun.

I like the Harry Potter films. Like not love. I don't find myself getting drawn into that world- enjoyable as it is- and I don't identify with any of the characters. As I've said before, I actually spent my teenage years at a faux-gothic boarding school in the middle of nowhere and- well- I find Rowling's vision a little starry-eyed.

God, but I bet all the other kids really resent and hate Harry and his chums for repeatedly saving the world and being feted and feasted at the end of the day!

Bloody, little, do-gooding teachers' pets!

And all the stories are exactly the same- and all the villains far too easy to defeat and that wimpy little Malfoy kid must be the least threatening (and worst-acted) screen villain in the history of the movies. All you have to do is look at him funny and he falls over.

Date: 2005-12-04 04:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] halfmoon-mollie.livejournal.com
The movies are fun - that's a good word. Hollywood's picturing of Rowling's books is much as I pictured it, and yet...

I never went to a boarding school, so I admit I lack that particular experience and prejudice. I personally find Malfoy (the kid in the movie) silly, but the character in the book pretty scary. Same with Snape. I guess what you can see is much less scary than what you are prompted to imagine.

I enjoy the books. I don't care who says they are badly written, I am of the many who say that it IS good that someone got American children reading again. They are fun to read...and yet, in the last one I found myself getting as teary eyed and upset as if they were real.

Yep, I agree with you - for the movies, FUN is the word.

Date: 2005-12-04 04:43 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] greybeta.livejournal.com
I'd hate Harry Potter, too.

Date: 2005-12-04 07:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lblanchard.livejournal.com
The books get more richly textured, more nuanced, and darker as the series progresses. The books are also more complex than the films, and I think that reading the books first makes the films better -- they're faithful enough to the texts that one's mind fills in the blanks.

I've read forward in the thread and note your objection to the unambiguity of the Potter victories. That, too, changes as the series progresses. Partly, I think, it's because the characters age a year between books and are more able to understand conflicting values and ambiguities.. Additionally, I believe that Rowling -- whether by design or by happenstance -- pitches her books more and more toward the age group of the characters. Book 4 is considerably darker than Book 3, Book 5 darker still, and by Book 6 Harry ends the adventure with a great deal of despair, very little hope, and the fatalistic soldiering on that's the hallmark of the epic hero.

As an aside, I believe that critics consider Chamber of Secrets to be the weakest of the novels and the films.

Date: 2005-12-04 08:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] queen-in-autumn.livejournal.com
I remember watching the first HP movie on DVD and thinking "I bet that I would have really been into these movies if I'd been a kid when they came out."

As it is, I find the movies passable entertainment, but I don't rush out to see them. I started reading the books with my daughter, and ho-hummed through the first three. However, we ended up rushing through three and four chapters at a time (way too much for a sensible bedtime!) when we got to the climaxes of books four and five.

I'm not going to be standing in line at midnight at the bookstore for book six, but I'm definitely looking forward to seeing how Rowlings brings it to a conclusion.

Date: 2005-12-04 08:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] queen-in-autumn.livejournal.com
And I'm glad for the further confirmation of Aliz's recovery!

Date: 2005-12-04 10:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mummm.livejournal.com
You made me laugh! :-)))

*It's only fiction*

Date: 2005-12-04 05:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jackiejj.livejournal.com
The boy who plays Malfoy is a choral singer in real life, and also in real life all the girls have crushes on him because of his blue eyes and blonde hair...

I liked all the Potter films, but the best is the fourth, I think, which is much darker and allows Potter to show more depth, the beginning of adulthood.

Date: 2005-12-04 08:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] four-thorns.livejournal.com
read the books, you great curmudgeon! they start out simplistic, but around book four they really do become much more complex; book five has harry realizing that the authorities around him are corrupt and untrustworthy, book six is heading towards all-out war and most definately does not end with feting and feasting. books four, five, and six all end with a rather significant death. as someone else has noted, the increasing complexity of the books seems to reflect the kids' increasing awareness of the complexity of the world.

book/film #2 is really the weakest of them all: it's just another adventure like #1, with no series-level developments. interestingly enough, though, the events of book two do become rather significant in book six.

you don't even like snape? no?

not even just a little bit?

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