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poliphilo ([personal profile] poliphilo) wrote2005-08-01 10:01 am
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Race Relations

Our friend Khadijah (who is support worker with Social Services)was in Royton yesterday morning and three times she had guys crusing past in cars shout racist abuse at her.

Royton is the suburb of Oldham where I used to be a vicar. It's a "nice" area- upwardly mobile, and almost exclusively white.

Race relations are edgy round here at the best of times, but it looks like they've got edgier since the London bombings. Leastways Khadj has never encountered anything like this before.

She said she wanted to go up to the shouters and say, "Look, I'm a nice person. I'm doing a useful job here. What makes you think you can talk to me like that?"

Her boss would like to pull her out of Royton, but she doesn't want to go. "If I leave," she says, "they'll have won."

[identity profile] dadi.livejournal.com 2005-08-01 02:55 am (UTC)(link)
It is the same here. Last Friday I watched an ugly scene of a fat Italian guy in a mercedes insulting a moroccan-looking man on his bicycle, without any apparent cause, he just shouted out of his window stuff like "bloody kamikazes, we should kill you all" and similar atrocities, all with a southern italian cadence. The "arab" though didn't stay silent.. he answered the invective of the fat guy in purest lombardian dialect, telling him to go home to his dirty south and thinking about his mafia down there instead of insulting people without knowing anything about them.
Apparently the cyclist was either just a very arabic looking northern Italian, or, like rather common nowadays, he had been living here for so long that he had acquired even the cadence and dialect.

Anyway, this rather funny event in itself made me feel sad thinking about it.. the bombings are truly drawing out the worst in everybody, re-creating regionally closed groups where we are supposed to live all in a global, super-european village. Discouraging .

[identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com 2005-08-01 03:04 am (UTC)(link)
I'm glad the guy in the Merc got as good as he gave.

But, yes, it's sad. This town I live in is multicultural but- largely because of Council housing policy- everyone more or less lives in ghettos. Our house is on one of the few integrated streets- half Asian and half white- sandwiched between the Asian ghetto of Glodwick (up on the hill) and the white ghetto of Fitton Hill (down in the valley).

[identity profile] jackiejj.livejournal.com 2005-08-01 05:44 am (UTC)(link)
On Saturday afternoon in a south Knoxville neighborhood known for violence and drug problems, there was a drive-by shooting while some children and adults were out in the yard, and a 25-year-old woman stepped in front of a four-year-old child to protect her and was shot in the head and killed.

No one knows who did it.

When the TV crew went out to interview the neighbors, no one would talk on camera. "It would be like drawing a target on my chest," one said.

No children are out in the yard anymore, and no one sits on their porches.

And it's random, apparently.

This morning, in another Knoxville neighborhood, a man looked out to see if his paper was in the driveway and found a woman's body.

Police are investigating.

[identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com 2005-08-01 06:13 am (UTC)(link)
The reason- or one of the reasons- this particular killing made the headlines, is that it didn't happen in a "bad" neighbourhood, but in a leafy, middle-class suburb. We were told that the last "racial" incident that was logged at the victim's college happened 11 years ago.

There have been two arrests. One man is out on bail and the other is "helping the police with their enquiries" (I love that phrase!)

[identity profile] karenkay.livejournal.com 2005-08-01 04:45 am (UTC)(link)
I've been reading about a murder in Liverpool Friday.

[identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com 2005-08-01 05:39 am (UTC)(link)
That's right. I've just been watching the latest news report. Four white men cornered an 18 year old Afro-Caribbean student and hit him with an axe.

The murder victim was a model student and a devout Christian. His "crime" seems to have been having a white girlfriend.

[identity profile] karenkay.livejournal.com 2005-08-01 05:56 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, the axe is just chilling. Well, the whole thing is, but that makes it clearly deliberate, and not just getting carried away.

I'm not pointing the finger at Britain, by any means. Somewhat of the same sort of thing happened in the US post-9/11.

[identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com 2005-08-01 06:18 am (UTC)(link)
I read an article in the Daily Express this morning which said we should tear up the European Human Rights Act, and I was thinking, no- its things like the Human Rights Act that differentiate our system of governance from the kind of Islamic Caliphate the bombers would like to establish.

[identity profile] jackiejj.livejournal.com 2005-08-01 05:40 am (UTC)(link)
How awful. Three times?

But how admirable that she stays.

[identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com 2005-08-01 06:21 am (UTC)(link)
She's brave- and tough.

She's married to a white British Muslim and the two of them get a lot of stick from (some) of their Asian neighbours.

[identity profile] qatsi.livejournal.com 2005-08-01 10:26 am (UTC)(link)
It's a "nice" area- upwardly mobile, and almost exclusively white

Is that the area that people were commenting on in particular after a round of BNP "success" in local elections a year or two ago?

This is a sad tale. I can see why she would want to stay, and why her boss would want to move her. At least that's two people trying to do the right thing.

[identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com 2005-08-01 01:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Is that the area that people were commenting on in particular after a round of BNP "success" in local elections a year or two ago?

No- Oldham has always (just) avoided electing BNP councillors. I think the area you mean is over in Burnley.
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[identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com 2005-08-02 01:25 am (UTC)(link)
It looks like these incidents are on the increase.

Or maybe it's just that we're taking more notice of them in the wake of the London bombings.