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poliphilo ([personal profile] poliphilo) wrote2015-04-26 10:59 am

Germany's Hitler

I was looking at a book called Germany's Hitler yesterday. It was published in 1938 and the author was someone called Heinz A Heinz. He seemed to be in favour of little Adolf so I turned to the last page to see what his conclusions were. National Socialism, he told me, is the future. And why? Because it's all about love.

The shop wanted £10 for it and I thought, "No, probably not..."
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[personal profile] matrixmann 2015-04-26 10:17 am (UTC)(link)
Got the feeling that this would be a book that is banned here... (If I see what the search engine gives out about it and what you write.)

[identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com 2015-04-26 11:59 am (UTC)(link)
It was apparently written with a view to selling National Socialism to the English speaking world. It gets billed as the "only authorised biography".
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[personal profile] matrixmann 2015-04-26 12:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Hm, obviously you don't find anything about it in German. May just fit...
Just saying this because the talking around it that I can find sounds to me like it's a book that praises National Socialism - and such things mostly land in the poison chest here because they state anything that violates the law.

The topic of the Austrian that is always sold as a German becomes interesting this year because with 70 years dead his famous book "Mein Kampf" is no longer under copyright protection (which the Federal State of Bavaria held) and it becomes the first time since its original release that it's allowed to be officially sold again. Before Bavaria as a copyright holder denied any kind of reprinting or distribution.

[identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com 2015-04-26 12:33 pm (UTC)(link)
I can understand why books like this are banned in Germany but how do you understand the Nazis if you suppress their documents and records? Heinz gives us the Nazis view of themselves and how they chose to present themselves to the world. That's interesting I think.
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[personal profile] matrixmann 2015-04-26 12:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Admitting it has its disadvantages...
Well, the main reason books like these are often banned is just they state something that violates the law that is active these days.
Denying the Holocaust for example is something you're not allowed to do juridically.
The rest is always a matter of opinion.
But due to that this kind of people always already doesn't respect the current law, it's just as easy to take it off the streets.

[identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com 2015-04-26 02:54 pm (UTC)(link)
I should imagine this book is too early for it to be guilty of holocaust denial.
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[personal profile] matrixmann 2015-04-26 03:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Indeed it is.
Sigh, you know, if you find a lawyer and a court which finds it spreads too much hatespeech or anything else that is against public morals...
At least the thing to add is about Nazi stuff they're admittedly sensitive over here in general.

[identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com 2015-04-26 04:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Censorship makes me uneasy. Banning books was something the Nazis did. I don't think we should emulate them.

The better way is to discredit and disprove. We should argue not ban.
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[personal profile] matrixmann 2015-04-26 05:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Hm, about this topic in connection with this ideology I'm always a bit puzzled.
On one hand it's better to have examples on your hand and to be able to discuss it freely, but on the other hand, if you let it float around freely you also let them have a platform to explain themselves and through that to spread their ideology as if they had all the time in the world. And the effect becomes like advertising - everyone claims to not believe in it, but everyone knows it, and in the end a good bunch of people goes running to the shop to buy the advertised shit.
I really don't know how to handle it.

[identity profile] artkouros.livejournal.com 2015-04-26 01:38 pm (UTC)(link)
If Hitler hadn't invaded the rest of the world his nonsense might have taken hold over here. He had a lot of support among the rarified class - Ford, Kennedy, Lindbergh, etc.

[identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com 2015-04-26 02:53 pm (UTC)(link)
And among the English establishment. The Duke of Windsor was a huge admirer.