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poliphilo ([personal profile] poliphilo) wrote2014-09-24 09:31 am

Call Me Ludd

I went into Tonbridge Post Office and there was only one manned counter in operation and all the others had been replaced by machines. A cheery woman was trying to get us to use the machines and because the queue for the one counter was so long and immobile Ailz and I succumbed. We had a small packet to post. First we had to tell the machine that we wanted to speak to it in English and afterwards what it was we needed it to do. Only it did nothing but issue instructions. It told us to weigh and measure our packet and swipe it past sensors and then, because we'd said the packet was a letter and the PO classified it as a package (how were we to know?) it stopped talking to us and we had to start all over again from the beginning. If the cheery woman hadn't been standing at our elbows directing our every move we'd never have completed the process.

I hate automation. It doesn't make things easier for the customer, rather the reverse. And it denies him or her that mitigating human contact. Also it puts people out of work.  All it achieves- and this is why they're doing it- is to shift money from the many to the few. It's good news for directors and shareholders, bad news for everyone else.

Finally (you bastards) if you're going to automate please simplify the process. All this measuring and weighing and swiping is a pain. Either make your machines more intelligent or do away with all the variations in service.  Let's have two prices: one for little things and one for big things. And, while you're about it, now you've got your customers doing all the work, how about dropping your prices?
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[identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com 2014-09-24 10:15 am (UTC)(link)
If I go to a shop I want to deal with people not machines. I quite enjoy having a chat with the person at the check-out.

[identity profile] puddleshark.livejournal.com 2014-09-24 11:43 am (UTC)(link)
They did the same thing at one of our local co-op supermarkets - replaced four manned tills with one manned till and a row of automated checkouts, which no-one uses because they don't actually work unless you have an assistant constantly standing by with the over-ride key...

Drives me up the wall.

[identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com 2014-09-24 12:47 pm (UTC)(link)
It's bad. In fact, it's wicked.

Later that afternoon we went to Pembury hospital for a routine appointment. They too expect you to sign in at a computer screen. The first we tried was broken and the second thought about things for a while then told us to go to the (manned) admissions desk. Grrrrr.

[identity profile] wyrmwwd.livejournal.com 2014-09-24 04:01 pm (UTC)(link)
That is exactly why they do it... to shift the labor (and labor cost) to the consumer.

I am in favor of having the automation option available for people who prefer it (some people do), but not forcing it onto people. I avoid it whenever I can as a political statement (HIRE PEOPLE, DAMMIT!), but I do like shopping at Amazon.

[identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com 2014-09-24 07:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Like you I avoid the automated option for political reasons. Also because it terrifies me.

[identity profile] butterscotch711.livejournal.com 2014-09-24 05:07 pm (UTC)(link)
If I'm buying junk food in the middle of the night, I like scurrying to the self check-out and avoiding feeling judged. But that's not really an argument in its favour!

Some places are basically now just big warehouses full of goods with a row of self check-outs and one or two people keeping an eye on everything. I find walking into a warehouse and walking out with an expensive new gadget without interacting with anybody surreal.

[identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com 2014-09-24 07:38 pm (UTC)(link)
I was taken aback to find the Post Office automated. It was still being run by people last time I was there. It took me a minute or two to work out what had happened- and to find a board with instructions on it. I won't being going back there unless I really have to. I'll use the little Post Office in the village instead.
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[identity profile] heleninwales.livejournal.com 2014-09-24 06:37 pm (UTC)(link)
The only time we've appreciated machines selling things was in South Korea where we were using them to buy tickets for the metro. It meant we didn't have to try buying tickets from people who might not speak any English. Even so, it took two of us to work the machine, one reading the instructions and tapping in the choices and the other poised to feed it money. And it wasn't just because we weren't native Koreans. We saw a bunch of Korean teenagers struggling to buy tickets because they weren't reacting fast enough and the thing kept timing out.

[identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com 2014-09-24 07:42 pm (UTC)(link)
I haven't ever been in that situation but I think I'd always rather deal with a human being. Machines flummox me.