Eck And Alastair
Aug. 26th, 2014 09:00 amAlastair: So what money are you going to use?
Eck: It's nae problem.
Alastair: But what money are you going to use?
Eck: Is that all you've got to say?
And so on and on for 90 minutes. Much of the time they talked over one another. My attention wandered and I'm afraid I bailed out before the end. If either of them said anything inspirational I missed it.
Conclusion: Nationalism is a busted flush. If either of them had started warbling about flags and Burns and bonnie braes they'd have been laughed off stage. And what is left of nationalism if you take away the romance? Nothing but a squabble about where to site the parliament building and where the money's going to come from. If I were a Scot I might conclude there was some virtue in being ruled by shits in Edinburgh rather than shits in London- but I don't think I'd care very much either way.
Eck: It's nae problem.
Alastair: But what money are you going to use?
Eck: Is that all you've got to say?
And so on and on for 90 minutes. Much of the time they talked over one another. My attention wandered and I'm afraid I bailed out before the end. If either of them said anything inspirational I missed it.
Conclusion: Nationalism is a busted flush. If either of them had started warbling about flags and Burns and bonnie braes they'd have been laughed off stage. And what is left of nationalism if you take away the romance? Nothing but a squabble about where to site the parliament building and where the money's going to come from. If I were a Scot I might conclude there was some virtue in being ruled by shits in Edinburgh rather than shits in London- but I don't think I'd care very much either way.
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Date: 2014-08-26 08:48 am (UTC)Perhaps if London became an independent city state with its financial centre and stupendously rich foreign oligarch property owners, then the rest of the country can go back to being like the Post-War Britain we knew and loved, which is where our economies currently seem to be, minus all the industry we used to have of course.
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Date: 2014-08-26 08:57 am (UTC)Of course it doesn't have to be Manchester. Peter Hitchens would like to see the British government operating out of Glasgow- thus knocking Scottish nationalism on the head.
It won't happen, though, will it?
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Date: 2014-08-26 09:30 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2014-08-26 09:37 am (UTC)I read so much on line and in the papers that I sometimes lose track of where an idea comes from.
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Date: 2014-08-26 09:41 am (UTC)Mea maxima culpa.
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Date: 2014-08-26 09:45 am (UTC)Alternatively, the Northumbrian town of Haltwhistle believes itself to be the centre of Britain. But putting parliament there might spoil the place.
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Date: 2014-08-26 09:51 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2014-08-26 10:09 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2014-08-26 10:11 am (UTC)But, yes, it's a city in dire need of a raison d'etre.
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Date: 2014-08-26 11:16 am (UTC)The hub (a Scot as it happens) was at uni with him and says he was much the same in student politics.
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