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poliphilo ([personal profile] poliphilo) wrote2004-12-20 09:41 am
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Agatha Christie- Anarchist

ITV is screening a new set of Miss Marple dramatizations, starring Geraldine McEwan.

We've seen a couple now. I always found Christie a dull read, but she works fabulously on the small screen.

Murder At The Vicarage spent a leisurely three quarters of an hour establishing the 1950s rural idyll that is St Mary Mead and then tore it to
shreds as it was revealed that all these prosperous, respectable middle-Englander stereotypes are in fact murderers, adulterers, thieves, embezelers and traitors.

In her own way Christie is as subversive as Bunuel. Something like Murder At The Vicarage is really just The Discreet Charm Of The Bourgeoisie by other means.

[identity profile] jackiejj.livejournal.com 2004-12-20 02:07 pm (UTC)(link)
You don't think her life was unfulfilling, do you?!

Golly, no--I just wish everyone could fall in love once, that's all.

[identity profile] karenkay.livejournal.com 2004-12-20 03:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh.

Don't you think everyone has?

[identity profile] jackiejj.livejournal.com 2004-12-20 09:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Sadly, no, I don't think everyone has fallen in love at least once. For some people, it doesn't happen.

[identity profile] karenkay.livejournal.com 2004-12-20 09:45 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't quite believe that.

I think I don't believe IN it. Because that's SO non-human.

[identity profile] jackiejj.livejournal.com 2004-12-20 09:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe it will someday happen for her, but Kate has never been in love.

I hope she will be someday.

[identity profile] karenkay.livejournal.com 2004-12-20 09:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Please don't think I was accusing Kate of being non-human!

You don't think she's in love with her students?

[identity profile] jackiejj.livejournal.com 2004-12-20 10:02 pm (UTC)(link)
:) Not to worry, gentle Karen. I know you didn't mean that.

Yes, she is in love with many things. And she is talking about adopting a Chinese child or a foster child, because she loves children.

She is happy, and in some ways--as you say--she is in love.

But without the angst. Maybe she's lucky.

[identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com 2004-12-20 10:18 pm (UTC)(link)
How strange never to have been in love. I think I have been in love, almost constantly, since Moira, the headmaster's daughter (I was an shepherd and she was an angel) sat together in rehearsals for the Sunday School play.

[identity profile] jackiejj.livejournal.com 2004-12-20 10:22 pm (UTC)(link)
It's very possible she has been and just wanted to avoid telling her old boring mother about it...

I know--I've had crushes since I was eight. It's awfully fun.

Right now I am in love with Viggo of Lord of the Rings.

Sigh.

[identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com 2004-12-20 10:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Actually now I think about it Moira wasn't the first.

There was a girl in primary school. I'd have been about four. I didn't know what to make of my feelings so I told her I was going to eat her.

I'm almost certain her name was Carol.



[identity profile] jackiejj.livejournal.com 2004-12-20 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
I didn't know what to make of my feelings so I told her I was going to eat her.

A tender first attempt at romance...I wonder if Carol was alarmed!

I remember my first crush at six: a seven year old boy next door pretended he was Superman and carried me around the yard, saving me.

I think he had a towel cape. Most impressive.

[identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com 2004-12-20 11:31 pm (UTC)(link)
She thought I was a horrid person.

It was a very short-lived romance.

[identity profile] jackiejj.livejournal.com 2004-12-20 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
My son when in fourth grade got the most awful crush on a girl.

Just before the class Christmas party, he begged and pleaded and I took him to a shop and helped him select a pretty gold bracelet for $5, and they giftwrapped it. He was so thrilled.

He carried it in his backpack the next day, and I couldn't wait to find out how the gift-giving went.

He got home and was very happy. I asked, "Well? Did she like it?"

"She sure did! Boy!"

"Well, what did she say to you?"

"Mom! I didn't want her to know it was from me! I just put it in her desk.

"Boy, did she love it!"

I suppose he had the right idea, actually. That was true love.

[identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com 2004-12-21 09:46 am (UTC)(link)
That's a lovely story.

To take pleasure in someone else's pleasure, expecting nothing in return. I guess that's what they mean by the innocence of childhood.

[identity profile] karenkay.livejournal.com 2004-12-20 10:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Angst is not a requirement of love.

It's often part of the separation process.

[identity profile] jackiejj.livejournal.com 2004-12-20 10:23 pm (UTC)(link)
How right you are.

The moment you feel angst, you've left the in-love part and are moving into the wretched I-don't-want-to-lose-you hopeless part.

[identity profile] karenkay.livejournal.com 2004-12-20 10:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes.